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QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 08:19 PM) Gio Gonzalez is haunting KW at these meetings. Compromising Danks' value for sure. Yeppers.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 03:21 PM) Got that backwards. Kris-Cross gonna make ya jump - jump!

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 02:53 PM) I don't support drunks on this site. Go away. Hypocritical?

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 02:48 PM) Stop. Are you reciting song lyrics or directing communication to a board member?

Lilinator on the move with aRow as a 4th outfielder with a chance to win a FT gig with Rios going to the pine? Spring training invite? Doesn't make sense to me if we're rebuilding - unless it's on a 1 year deal which they think Rowand can infuse some drive into the youngsters.

I wouldn't be entirely surprised seeing Konerko dealt with us acquiring alonso yonder and yasmani grandal from the reds in a separate deal.

Surprised that only 1 spec is coming back as a return. Seems like a classic KW gamble to me.... Go big or go home. Reality seems to be that this kid either turns out to be DLS part 2 or a potential top of the line starter. There's no in-between or modesty in KW synapses.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 09:48 PM) ESPN winter meeting special it is sad to see for Sox all it says is shed payroll through trades, that gets people excited for 2012! KW will be fleeced again! I'm just itchin for this all to go down. Can't wait - will be glued to screen for months. Is it March yet?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 10:24 PM) I meant it makes no sense to give daily playing time to those 2 old guys in a rebuilding situation. No sense at all. If we are stuck with them, don't rebuild for a while. Retool. There's a chance Dunn might close his eyes and swing hard enough to hit 30 home runs and drive in 110. And Rios might be interested enough if the team has a good April to hustle into a .280 batting average with 22 homers and 94 ribbies. Playing those 2 guys with all young prospects around them and a horrifically young, bad pitching staff makes no sense. Or you could say this.... It makes sense to give daily playing time to many young guys while Rios and Dunn ride out their contracts. You hope that they turn it around at some point and if they do - you trade them. If not, oh well - by the time that the injected youth matures - we'll be primed to pickup a good DH and CF in the free agent market. Hell, by that time - we could draft for those slots now and have a replacement there.

QUOTE (supernuke @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 08:58 PM) I hear J4L like to cuddle after he's done. Nuke? The Nuke??

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 09:07 PM) So, we've acquired two guys to evaluate talent from teams with good minor leagues so far? I like. From all we've done thus far this off-season... a rebuild era seems to be upon us.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 08:23 PM) How come nobody in favor of a complete rebuild will address the fact its a non-sequitir to "rebuild" when 2/9 of your order are named Dunn and Rios?? The fact we have them dictates we put rebuilding on hold a while. It is absurd to play those 2 when we are totally rebuilding. Their salary together is what - 30 million? A rebuild with them on the books is not out of line or absurd in my mind. You forgot Peavy too - maybe because it's the last year of his contract?

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 08:15 PM) If St. Louis is in it, it's over. Word is that they're looking into a trade to open up a spot in their rotation... wait... was that stated in this thread already?

Marks gonna get mucho phat offers. I think it'd be cool if he wound up in St. Louis. Miami would be cool - here would be cool. Niiiiiice.

After just 1 day of reading press from the winter meetings I can officially announce that Robin Ventura's persistent use of the word "and" - is annoying.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 12:06 PM) Great, the thread's about to go down the drain. Until things actually start heating up - thus, giving us things to discuss.

QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 11:46 AM) With many teams looking for a SS, I hope Alexei is also a candidate to be moved in a trade.. What teams are in on SS? I've been trying to ascertain that for the last 24 hours.

QUOTE (rowand's rowdies @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 07:33 AM) Thornton - 2 Top 10 Prospects or 1 young Pitcher or Position Player with some MLB experience and starting potential Quentin - 1 SP (Young arm with MLB experience middle of rotation potential), Top 10 Prospect (Pitcher or hitter) Crain - 2 Top 20 Prospects (Salary dump) Santos - 2 Top 10 Prospects (at least 1 with star potential) and MLB ready young arm Alexi - 2 Top 10 Prospects (both should have star potential) and a MLB ready Position player or arm I'd say that all of these returns are over valued... No?

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 11:28 AM) Danks is not as movable as many think. No team us give up a top prospect for one season of control. He is if 14 teams are interested in a workhorse type LH starter like M56.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 12:35 AM) I would think they would try and sign Jimmy Rollins before trading pieces to get Alexei. Rollins will come cheaper than Reyes. Ah - so the SS market is thin this year?

With the free agent starter market thin on the left with just Buehrle and Wilson - look for Danks to command a haul. There currently are 14 teams reportedly interested in Buehrle and those who miss out may drive the price up on Danks.

QUOTE (chisox2334 @ Dec 4, 2011 -> 06:42 PM) As I said yesterday marlins will land Reyes and also could land buerhle Hope they land Prince too. Also, hope that we sell flipping everything we can possibly get value for and just start fresh. Buerhle or not - sell, sell, sell.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 4, 2011 -> 03:23 PM) Its nice that he's a good guy. It definitely beats the alternative. Too bad it appears he will have to make his living doing something other than playing baseball. Didn't he sign for something like 2 million? If he is smart, he won't have to work a day in his life. Edit: His signing bonus was 500k. John was 2M