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QUOTE (Real @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 09:34 PM) This deal has to be false, I think the dude could possibly be getting tested for leaks, for lack of a better pun None of it has been even slightly hinted at anywhere else, even the Peavy and Ejax deals were eventually acknowledged rather quickly after k0na put it out there This was put out there during the day, during prime rumor time and not a single hint of it has popped up anywhere else Not buying it Not at all.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 09:06 PM) Any name(s) of the studs we have to give up in order to dump him? If you seek within this thread - you will find all information that is currently known.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 09:01 PM) I've tried to find it.....but where is this Rios to Brewers rumor at? Just some dudes twitter feed. Look back in the tread here for his account.

QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 08:52 PM) If this happens, there are a lot of people on this board who stand to eat some crow based upon comments earlier today. I'd be first in line and would gladly start munching.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 08:23 PM) I don't disagree. I'm one of the few still in KW's corner. Just thought the wording might get an eye-roll or chuckle from the guy who actually writes the checks. Ah, got ya. You never know how someone will perceive another, right? Cheers

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 05:55 PM) That pretty much sums my face up after reading this.

QUOTE (gosox41 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 08:11 PM) Rios is now hopefully on the bench for a long time. Sounds great to me. Kenny Williams on Rios: Ozzie on Rios: Yuck. I used to love Ozzie but man - his time has come. He can't even listen to his GM or look at a player hitting .200 - who does nothing but lolligag around the field.

I'm sure most of us are - it just doesn't make sense to me AT ALL for the brew crew.

Anyone have the link to that b****en compilation twitter feed someone made here at Soxtalk circa 2009? I can't find it for the life of me.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 07:32 PM) The Chairman may have coughed up his breakfast reading this. I suspect that Jerry actually appreciates this. It's called integrity and is a very valued trait in the professional world. Not to sound condescending or anything - I'm just saying.

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 06:07 PM) Next As in... you're done with the restroom and now others can come in to dunk the douce? Edit: I will have no life until Sunday at 3PM EST. Well, aside from going to see Rage Against the Machine rock the house full of 100,000 people on Saturday. muhahahaah

Here's more from this Twitter bird...

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 06:41 PM) World Series can be taken this week.

QUOTE (Special K @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 05:02 PM) I realize Rios is by far the worst player on our team this year, but a year ago he was one of the best... I don't like the idea of buying high and selling low. buying high?

Williams on Stewart regarding his performance this year in AA and his future with the Sox:

QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 02:02 PM) Is that a prerequisite to post on this board? No, but continuing to assert a Rios trade makes your potential alcoholism suspect.

Carlos can't play D. Nope. Not at all.

QUOTE (JoshPR @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 01:33 PM) What do you mean? That's what basicly happend The equivalent of what Toronto gave up from us would have looked something like this: Jackson + Sale + Thornton + Pierre The Jays sent over a young LHP with a 2.97 ERA / 1.09 WHIP this year... a veteran RHP with a 3.68 ERA / 1.09 WHIP this year... a starting veteran Center Fielder that is about equivalent to Juan Pierre... and Jackson. To start, we don't really match up there because we don't have anything that is equivalent to Dotel. Second, if we did that trade - our bullpen would be gutted. It was much more than just Jackson.

QUOTE (JoshPR @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 01:16 PM) LOL so basicly we get frasor for teabag and Jackson when we could have had Rasmus? Ohhh Kenny LOL! Wonder what the moron says now. Frasor ain't bad but Kenny went with the first trade, we could have held Jackson a lil longer and teams would have gotten desperate and gotten more.... Ohh the life of a sox fan.... Jackson for Rasmus? Not from what I've heard. Even if you do get Rasmus and trade Quentin - you're looking at an outfield of Viciedo - Rasmus - Rios. I don't think the Sox liked Rasmus because of his reported issues and because we have 4 outfields as it stands now. Rios sucking really bleeped us this year.

I don't mind this trade at all. You have to put Hudson / Holmburg behind you and look at it for what it really is at present day: Jackson + Teahen = Frasor + Stewart + ( potentially another arm from STL ) + DeAza / Viecedo - Rios. There's a lot to like there. 1.) Frasor will lighten the load on the pen and will allow our pen to throw more innings incase Peavy and Humber continue to get worn out after 5IP. 2.) Teahen is gone this year and in 2012 + we retain the cash 3.) Stewart has a good arm and may prove to be a good starter in 2012 4.) It allows us a roster spot for DeAza / Viecedo 5.) Rios gets benched 6.) It's rumored that we get another arm from the Cards What I don't like about the trade: 1.) Ozzie saying that he still wants to play Rios / that bringing up players is not a good way to motivate underperforming starters is asinine. There's a lot more to like than not here and I think it might actually make us better in 2011... if Ozzie could learn how to manage his starters and bullpen that is. That, right there... is a big IF. Good job bucket.

Suck on that Rios.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 26, 2011 -> 11:52 PM) So we'd be saving a little over a million for next year's payroll with this deal? Barf I'd much rather have 1M$ + Frasor + minor leaguer than -1M$ + Teahen + draft pick

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 26, 2011 -> 08:18 PM) Sox can win the division regardless of what any other team does. They have the best staff in the division by far. If they had a semi-competent manager this race may not even be close. Its just pathetic what Ozzie is doing. 2011 white sox baseball - pathetic

Pathetic

Just missed it. Damn!