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QUOTE(sircaffey @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 01:19 PM) First, Swisher is a very good defensive 1B. Second, Fields doesn't play 1B. Third, Quentin will be a better offensive player than Crede. 1B is the easiest position to move to. Konerko is an average defensive 1B and we have never had problems. Put Fields there, and he will be fin.e Swisher going to 1st hurts his value, he is a very gifted athlete, Corner OF would get better value out of him. Quentin better offensively than Crede? Mind you he had surgery so you wont see terrible numbers like in 07. I would rather see Crede's great glove down at 3rd then dump him off while he has absolutely no value. At least give him until the all-star break before you trade him. And Quentin can survive 1 year of platooning in the OF, its not like he is never going to get a shot.

If we trade Konerko, why does Swisher move to first? Trade Konerko and try to get Willits and Shields. Or some CF and pitcher. Then set us up like this... LF - Swisher CF - Willits RF - Dye 3B - Crede SS - O-Cab 2B - Richar/Uribe whatever 1B - Fields DH - Thome Instead of moving Swisher to 1B and still having to play Quentin in left, why not move Fields to 1st, and keep Crede with us. And in the event that Crede needs a day off for his back, you move Fields to 3rd, Swisher to 1st, and Quentin then in LF. Am i missing something? Why hasn't this been mentioned?

QUOTE(Gbubbs @ Jan 4, 2008 -> 02:44 AM) l would say you are high and the Dew sig would suggest you are really high Really? I figured an aging player getting played a lot of money for a young very talented player and a young talented pitcher was a good trade...

Those are Swishers ZiPs in an Oakland Uniform though. Put him in a Sox uni, and his HR is sure to rise over 30.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jan 4, 2008 -> 02:09 AM) Yup, looks like a Fantasy trade alright. Well what do ya think? Im also about to make another trade... Angels get: DH Jim Thome + Cash White Sox get: CF Reggie Willits RP Dustin Moseley I then move Dye to DH, and put Swisher in RF.

Another Forum I am on is doing a MLB Fantasy League thing. It's VERY indepth, and you pick a current major league team, not a draft. I, of course, picked out White Sox. Well our season starts in a couple days, and all the GM's are wheeling right now to get some trades in. I just completed a trade, and I feel like I fleeced the guy. Just wondering what you guys think about these trades I will be making. Just made this trade with the Orioles GM... Orioles Get: 3B Joe Crede CF Jerry Owens SP Jose Zazueta(not sure if hes a real player actually, he was in Class A) White Sox Get: 2B Brian Roberts SP Troy Patton SP Fernando Cabrera I feel like I got a great deal. Crede has 1 year left, coming off an injury, and is deadweight to us really. Owens is fast, but does not offer much else. Zazueta has terrible ratings, not much else to say. Brian Roberts, as we know, is a pretty damn good player. Troy Patton is a 22 year old stud, and Fernanado Cabrera is just a throw in player, but still has wicked movement on his pitches, and is like 21 years old. Any thoughts? Im still looking to deal for a CF, I alread contacted the Phillies GM, but he is in love with Victorino appearantly.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 3, 2008 -> 06:51 PM) If the Phillies had any pitching prospects, or really anything interesting at all, then perhaps I'd consider it. But there is absolutely nothing the Phillies have that they'd consider parting with which would make that deal make sense for the Sox. Well Crede is virtually deadweight. Dye is still good, but he is aging. Victorino is 27 years old and while he played RF last year, he has played 100 games in CF in about 2 seasons in the bigs. He hit .281/.347/.432 last year with 37 Stolen Bases and only struck out 62 times. I happen to be a big Victorino fan, and I feel with Dye turning 34 years old in a couple weeks, we can dump him off. I think it would make plenty of sense for the Sox, especially if we can get a pitching prospect from the Phils, but if not, we still dumped salary and got a lot younger.

What about Crede and Dye for Victorino and some Phillie pitching prospect. Outfield then of Quinten - Victorino - Swisher. Phillies get their 3B, and a pretty good RF in Dye.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 3, 2008 -> 05:59 PM) Well, you're right, Thome is still an injury risk, as is JD while we're at it. But the best answer I can give to that is my classic theory...you can't have Johan Santana stuck in the bullpen just in case one of your starters gets hurt. Injuries will happen, it would be intelligent of us to be careful with JD and Thome to try to minimize them, but they will happen. I think that if/when Thome hits the DL this year, the logical move is Owens moves to starting CF, Swisher moves to either RF/1b, and Konerko/Dye alternate DHing, and you try to get around it as well as you can. You can look at just about any team in baseball and say "Oh, what happens if player X gets hurt, they're screwed". If Thome goes down for the full season for some reason, we're not winning the Central, and we'll probably finish last. If Cabrera goes down for Detroit, they might compete with us for that spot. If Johan went down for the Twins, ditto. You play the guys you have and do the best you can at some level, because you can't just keep talented guys sitting in the dugout in case someone gets hurt. Agreed. You CAN'T keep talented guys on the bench incase someone gets hurt. However, that is not the case. We are talking about Jerry Owens here. We can spell the older/injured risked players (Thome and Dye) in favor of giving Owens some experience, and having a better defensive CF in there.

Call me crazy, but, isn't Thome still an injury risk? So you set your team up with Quentin, Swish, and Dye. Thome gets subbed out every 4 or 5 gms. Dye then moves to DH, Swish to RF, and Owens in CF. And inevitably, Thome or Dye will get slowed down with an injury at some point, so then when one of them does, Owens goes to Center, Swish to RF, and whichever of Dye or Thome DIDn't get injured, DH's. Sure you can try and trade Dye for some prospects, but then what happens in Thome gets injured again? Pablo Ozuna plays DH?

My first post here... Think there is any chance we can swing a deal to the Angels for Ervin Santana and Reggie Willits, or AT LEAST Willits. Reggie is one of 5 outfielders, and the other ones are all getting paid a lot not to sit on the bench. Ervin Santana is their #6 starter gettting bumped for Joe Saunders. I figure both these guys might be available, and I know the Angels still probably have interest in Crede. Maybe a package around Crede for Willits, or try to land both Willits AND Santana?