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QUOTE (Jake @ May 5, 2012 -> 06:13 PM) We're set up to have a dynamite pen for a while now. I really think Hector should be starting though. He has a starter's repertoire, and good stuff for a starting pitcher. It seems like the adjustment to the bullpen has been difficult and certainly unnecessary now that Sale is our closer for the indefinite future. If Santiago can't get 3 guys out in relief appearances, I don't understand how he's starter material right now. He needs to learn much better control if he wants a shot at starting in the big leagues. He should be down in AAA right now.

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ May 5, 2012 -> 06:04 PM) I must have misunderstood Stone then. Sale throwing a single pitch more isn't going to screw his arm up. His mechanics are questionable to begin with. He's already thrown 30 innings this year, he didn't throw that many innings until maybe June or July last season. It's clear his frame and mechanics aren't fit for a major league starting pitcher. I hate Keith Law, but he might have been right on this one from the beginning.

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ May 5, 2012 -> 05:57 PM) I wonder if it's the slider or the change that's hurting his arm. It's the mechanics.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 5, 2012 -> 05:55 PM) Just remember that when Axelrod and Stults are pitching the next two days, lol. I remember when Stults shut us down with the Dodgers in 05.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 5, 2012 -> 05:54 PM) Sale and Reed could be the anchors for the best bullpen in baseball for years. They are almost the same pitcher in terms of pitches and velocity. Both are fastball/slider guys. Reed's got more of a hard slider, Sale's is more curve-ball like.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 5, 2012 -> 04:53 PM) I couldn't believe noah went back out there. I was yelling to take him out the entire time. How the f*** could you not tell he couldn't run?

We have ourselves a real closer gentlemen.

Come on Addison, ace him with a slider.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 5, 2012 -> 05:50 PM) Ventura has been very underwhelming Mostly because of his handling of the closer situation. It really should have been Reed to begin with. We knew Thornton wasn't successful at closing last season and Reed is easily one of the best relief prospects in baseball. We're rebuilding, so why not?

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ May 5, 2012 -> 05:48 PM) They always put Reed in a s***ty ass situation like that. Seriously, he shouldn't be left to clean up a mess. He should be brought in to begin with! When will Ventura and Coop stop the experimentation?

Bring in Reed.

You absolutely cannot let Santiago pitch to Jackson.

Please put Reed in. Raburn scares the s*** out of me in situations like these.

I'd imagine Reed will come in for Raburn, if we get there.

Reed warming.

Santiago in. I don't like this. I don't understand it, why not give Reed a shot?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 5, 2012 -> 05:37 PM) If Sale isn't ready to go today then he ought to be on the DL. Yeah, didn't he start on Tuesday?

I guess it's a good thing whoever closes won't see the middle of the Tigers' order. Avila, Peralta, Dirks due up.

Did I mention that Valverde sucks?

Screw you Valverde!

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 4, 2012 -> 10:00 PM) If this franchise had any f***ing clue, they'd have traded Sale for immense value if they internally did not believe he could hold up. All reports state that he wanted to continue starting. Let him go out there a couple more times, make some wild offer (UM DAVID WRIGHT ANYONE??) and upgrade the roster. Tell me Morel + Sale doesn't get you Wright (prior to so publicly pissing on your player's value?) God, this organization is being run by a dolt. Well, Sale alone should get you more than Wright if other teams had no concern over his mechanics. Plus, Wright's making a ton of money, money we kind of don't have.

Horrible execution, bad coaching. Nobody really stepped up late in the game. Plus, why didn't Watson play at all in the 4th? JL3 did nothing but dribble out the shot clock and take horrible shots.

I was just looking at Sale's mechanics earlier in the year, trying to see if his inverted W was going to be an issue. Not all inverted W's cause issues in pitchers, it's the pitching arm being horizontal (and not vertical) when the front foot is already planted that can overload the shoulder/elbow and cause injuries. I didn't come up with anything too conclusive, but it looks like his mechanics will cause arm issues.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 4, 2012 -> 04:35 PM) Sale is 3-1, with 28 ks in 32 IP, and they do this. WTF. He must have told them his arm wasn't feeling too hot. His velocity was down in his last start.

Wait, what the hell?