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QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Jun 28, 2016 -> 08:44 PM) You are wasting their WAR on losing teams when you can trade them to contenders to acquire WAR in the form of players who can contribute in future seasons which is MUCH more valuable to this team. Agreed.

QUOTE (Footlongcomiskeydog @ Jun 28, 2016 -> 08:33 PM) Hahn isn't going anywhere. This is year 2 of some sort of 3 year plan. A 500 finish this year will be an improvement over last year and a success in the eyes of Sox ownership. That is sooooooooooo 2015's excuse for the continued futility!

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 28, 2016 -> 08:05 PM) Actually felt like last year's team had more potential if Samardzija and Melky got it going. This current team has too many mediocre players with low ceilings trying to cover the holes. I'm just talking about the actual baseball we are watching.

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jun 28, 2016 -> 08:00 PM) all good vibes dead we are 20th in OBP and 25th in SLG pitching is fine but not elite So we are a bad team. The team just doesn't feel any different than it did a year ago right now, two years ago right now, or even three years ago right now.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 28, 2016 -> 07:51 PM) Well I have seen enough for one night. Family Guy on in five minutes where I'm at...

QUOTE (JLarucci23 @ Jun 28, 2016 -> 07:21 PM) Shuck and Tim on first and second with no outs. You don't bunt that early in the game at home, especially with a guy who can handle the bat like Eaton.

Frazier out avi'd Avi on that swing, which is not easy to do.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 28, 2016 -> 06:54 PM) I'm enjoying Anderson on defense. +1

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jun 27, 2016 -> 09:37 AM) 8-4 going into the ASB would be very solid. Would set them up to get Morneau back for the Anaheim series, Jackson back shortly after that & hopefully another bat & pen arm for the stretch. This team has shown, even when they are down, they are still going to hover right around .500 give or take 3-5 games. Goal from here on out should be to go 10 games over the rest of the way out & hope that's good enough for a playoff spot. FWIW, I do think Cleveland wins the division & for whatever reason, I see KC falling off before Detroit. This team is .500 at nearly the midpoint of the season, and the record is only that good due to the astronomical performance of Chris Sale thus far in the first half. Not to mention, but the Sox are also 7.5 games out at the moment. The dumpster dive likes of Morneau and Jackson aren't going to do much to improve on that, much less contribute to the team magically playing 10 games over the rest of the way. Let's face it - the Sox are essentially the same 73, 76 win team from the past couple of years. Nothing much has changed if you think about it. Offense is still putrid, defense is better, pitching is ok. Once Sale comes back down to earth a bit, the team is going to settle into a state of mediocrity along the likes of what we've seen in recent years. I know there are some who still insist on playing the "Well, if...." game and what not, but, I don't know. It still feels like 2014 and 2015 to me. I hope I'm wrong. Meanwhile, I heard Steve Stone on a broadcast from a show he did on the Score last week, and he was suggesting that in a month from now, the two Sox' - White & Red - could make interesting trade partners, with the White Sox having Jose Quintana to offer up, and Boston loaded with several blue chip, elite position prospects like Moncada and Benintendi who are currently blocked by other sensational position players already on the Red Sox roster. Unless as the poster suggested the team starts turning things around real soon and playing at a level significantly above .500, it's trades like these that will soon have to start being seriously considered by the White Sox.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jun 27, 2016 -> 11:37 AM) Himes was fired because JR didn't get along with him. The straw that broke the camels back happened at the trade deadline of 1990 according to what Jeff Torborg told me: ML: At the trade deadline the Sox were only three games behind the A’s yet the only thing the organization did was get reserve outfielder Phil Bradley from the Orioles. Were you disappointed especially since there was a lot of talk about the Sox getting guys like pitcher Mike Scott? JT: “Sure we were disappointed especially since that same day the A’s picked up Harold Baines and Willie McGee. I was sitting in my hotel room when I saw the news come across the TV and I thought ‘how did that happen?’ because we were behind Oakland, we could have put in a claim. At almost the same time I was thinking this I got a call from Jerry Reinsdorf and he asked me ‘what’s going on?’ All I could tell him was that I didn’t know.” “And you mentioned Mike Scott…this is the first time I’ve ever heard anything like that. If that’s true that just goes to show you that I wasn’t involved in everything that may have been going on. (Author’s Note: ESPN’s “Baseball Tonight’s” lead anchor Dave Marash reported when Larry Himes was fired in mid September, that part of the reason was, that he wasn’t interested in trading any of his minor league talent for more highly regarded players for the stretch drive. This apparently caused a wedge between him and ownership.) JR himself in a rare interview came right out and said why Himes was fired when he went on Chet Coppock's radio show that September. It basically was a Thibs comment years before that went down: “The fact is, Larry Himes cannot get along with anybody. You can hardly find anybody in the Sox organization that wasn’t happy when Larry Himes left.” Regarding the Hahn column, it's only natural that if the team continues to spin its wheels seemingly without direction (rebuild? reload? three year plan?) questions are going to start being asked about the decision makers above Ventura. Mark Himes is an interesting story. I don't know if he was hired to get along with everybody or to build a ballclub with a strong nucleus poised to go on a solid run for several years. When you look at Himes' body of work with the Sox in those four years he was here, the guy really did build quite a solid core. Remember, he took over the shambles left from the Hawk's rather tenuous year at the helm in '86. From there Himes drafted the likes of McDowell, Ventura, Thomas and Fernandez in the first rounds, and also the likes of Jason Bere, Ray Durham, and James Baldwin in subsequent rounds. He also traded away veterans for young, cost-controlled players (now where have we heard that term in recent years!) like Melido Perez, Greg Hibbard, Eric King, Lance Johnson, Wilson Alvarez, and (cough) Sammy Sosa. That happened primarily over a three year period from '87-'89, and then the next thing you knew, there was a 94 game win season in his fourth (and last) season. The man had a plan when it came to building from within and augmenting with trades for the type of young, cost-controlled players that Hahn has TALKED about getting over the past five years but rarely has. So the unlikeable chap got the team from Point A to Point B in four years, and certainly put them in a solid position to get to Point C. To the apparently nice guys running the show now in their fifth year whom the owner and others throughout the organization like, we ask, where is their Point B? Is it the second wild card this year, maybe? Who knows. All I know is 94 wins seems a long ways away at the moment.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jun 27, 2016 -> 10:12 AM) He's just following the usual blueprint. Looking for lightning in a bottle. Doesn't seem so far removed from Kenny. Where it gets interesting at Camp Reinsdorf is when the Chairman decides to weigh in with his views about getting from "Point A to Point B to Point C". Remember that doozy from back when Larry Himes was the GM in the late 80s? By year four of Himes' term he had built as strong of a core of young talent as you could hope for, collected through both strong draft choices and shrewd trades, resulting in a 94 win season in Himes' fourth year. Yet in his relentless wisdom, Reinsdorf decided to give Himes the heave-ho at the end of that fourth year, reasoning in somewhat of a flimsy fashion that he felt while Himes was able to get the team from "Point A to Point B", he didn't think he was the guy to get the team to "Point C". (Meanwhile, the guy he brought into replace Himes, Ron Schueler, spent ten years failing to get the team to Point C himself, but I digress!). But here we are in Year Five under Hahn's direction, and Point B doesn't appear to be anywhere in sight. I guess the famed loyalty program wasn't quite as established back in Himes' day as it appears to be today. Too bad for Larry!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 24, 2016 -> 01:39 PM) Ah Yes my biggest fan. I am not going to waste a whole of time explaining the obvious to someone who is looking to turn everything into a worst case scenario. If you can't see what improvement an average pitcher does at the back of this rotation, what exactly am I going to say to change your mind? Go back to ranting about the last 35 years. We are in Year #36, btw. There's improvement from an average pitcher in the back of the rotation - noted. Just not "tons", as you originally indicated.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 24, 2016 -> 10:11 AM) Nope, not bitter at all! Great comeback! We learned a whole bunch from it. You're on a hot streak! So now explain to us how it is you think the team will improve "tons" if Shields merely pitches "mediocre". One would think he'd have to return to the form of "Big Game James" and become a front line starter/ace type for the team to improve "tons". Just being mediocre doesn't seem like it would move the needle much, but I could be wrong. Let us in on how you reached your conclusion. Thanks!!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 11:03 AM) If we are playing the "if" game, the Sox have as good of a case as anyone. So the team slogan has gone from "All In" to "All If". Terrific!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 11:03 AM) If you are talking about potential, the Sox are sitting at .500, with a lot of guys having underachieved this year, and not many at all having overachieved. We haven't seen a hot Frazier or Abreu, or much of any offensive player who can be good. If Shields is even mediocre, this team improves a ton. If we are playing the "if" game, the Sox have as good of a case as anyone. There aren't a "lot of guys having underachieved". Frazier's average is way down, and Abreu is producing at a lower level than expected, but that's it. There are no surprises from the rest of the lineup, particularly those dumpster dive moves you called "surreal" in nature after they were all made in the offseason. Nothing underachieving about what we've seen from Jackson, Rollins, Avila, Navarro, or even Lawrie this season, not to mention that from holdovers Avi and Shuck. Their output is exactly in line with their performances of recent years. There was no basis coming into this season to expect anything different than what we've seen. You played the "oh, they just underachieved" card to defend and explain away the entire 2015 season. That dog is no longer hunting as we approach the midway point of the 2016 season.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 10:29 AM) Why don't you answer it? You seem to think you have all the answers. Don't you just hate people like that, Dick Allen!!

Nice win!

Vintage Hawkaroo these past two innings. YESSSS!

That slider away gives Tim some trouble

QUOTE (Tony @ Jun 22, 2016 -> 09:21 PM) Hawk is just throwing out some classics tonight. It's fun listening to him all wound up like this!

Lord have mercy!

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jun 22, 2016 -> 09:03 PM) So much for that .86 career WHIP. Eat s*** Uehara . Sorry have to gloat when I get the rare opportunity. WHOOP that WHIP, I say!!

Don't stop now, Boys!

Lawrie kilt it!

Q off the hook