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QUOTE (brett05 @ Feb 2, 2017 -> 10:30 AM) I don't think I ever said they couldn't. In fact I believe I said the more they sit, the troubles they'll be in come mid terms will be even greater. Want to make a gentlemen's bet that the Repubs get crushed if Trump keeps this up?

brett05: ss2k5 is definitely left wing extremist loon

WE HAVE ENTERED THE TWILIGHT ZONE!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 07:18 AM) This is where people have zero idea of history. Your mention of the "refusal to assimilate" couldn't be more normal in terms of history. Heck go all of the way back to colonial times. Religious groups struck out on their own. Ever heard of the Pligrims? How about the Quakers? The Amish? The Mormons too. Ethnic groups were no different. Indians, Africans, Irish, Chinese, Japanese, Jews, Germans, over time were some of the more prominent targets. Typically these groups came here in search of something new, and met with resistance because they didn't speak English and their customs offended the people who were already assimilated. The first generations usually didn't try to blend. They stayed in their ethnic neighborhoods, spoke the old language, kept the old customs, and never really became "American's" Many even turned to crime to make their way as traditional ways were closed to these groups. Whether it was the "Irish Need Not Apply" or the redlining of entire cities to keep the undesirables in their own places such as Chinatown and Little Italy, it has been done over our whole history. But every, single, time an amazing thing happened. The second generation started to leave that behind. They spoke English outside of the house, and spoke the native tongue in it. They picked up American customs, and turned to education as their way out of the neighborhoods. By the third generations it might only be a last name that would sell out an ethnic background. By the 4th and 5th generations, the ethnic identities faded to the point they were really of the old world anymore, they were Americans first, and something else later. The incredible part of that is that it was all voluntary. It wasn't like Soviet Russia where assimilation was forced, or Nazi Germany where the undesirables were just disposed of. People became Americans because they wanted to be Americans. The greatness of America has always been that people, no matter where they came from, always turned into Americans in a matter of a couple of generations. Pretty much unless we put the boot of discrimination on their necks, the transition has been seamless. With the banning of Muslims of certain countries coming to the United States, nothing has really changed. These elements have always held power in the United States, and they have always hid under the veil of trying to save us from the latest group we should be scared of. At times, they got enough power to make lives miserable for their targets. We banned the Chinese from immigrating at times. We rounded up the Japanese and put them into interment camps. We tried to send the Africans back to Africa. Despite all of this, these groups have still turned into Americans over time. I am here today to tell you that using history as my guide, Muslims won't be any different. Give America a couple of generations with these immigrants, and while you might have a few bad apples, they will be fat and lazy Americans in two generations. To me that is the ultimate victory. Our culture and society is so incredible that it wins out, and it wins out voluntarily. If we ever get to the point where this history stops, THAT is when we quit being great. You want proof? My hometown is FULL of Syrian refugees and immigrants that haven't blown up any buildings. They haven't used a single suicide vest. Guess what, they have been coming here for over a century just for the opportunity to work. So while some want to live in fear of the latest boogeyman group, history tells me that fear is wasted. Quit being scared of immigrants. Don't live your life in fear. The ultimate in living scared is trying to hide from other cultures. You want to make American great? Learn from your history instead of being scared and wrong. Mic drop.

I was legit on the let's give the guy a chance train, but Trump, after 8-9 days in power has been nothing short of a diaster.

I was at O'hare tonight and that protest was intense. I was working but I felt the passion for justice the people exerted.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jan 27, 2017 -> 11:25 PM) We are witnessing the collapse of this country. stop whining you liberal weenie #maga

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Jan 27, 2017 -> 06:51 PM) Lol, Mexico will never pay for that "f***ing wall". Peña Nieto is under enormous pressure to not cede one bit, if he bends to Trump's will, he most likely get's replaced, if he "beats Trump", then he will see a huge rise to his popularity, which is very low atm. The Mexican people dislike Trump a lot more than EPN, after all he has branded them as rapists and murderers. A large segment of the population actually wants out of NAFTA so they'd rather lose NAFTA than pay for Trump's Wall. If Trump wants a trade tariffs war, they are more than ready for it. There's actually been some talk on Mexican political shows of courting China to sign a military alliance, just in case...that would be taking it way too far though and who knows if China would be so in your face to the US, but you never know. Trump has been sabre rattling and the Chinese have responded in kind... Wow China and Mexico seriously? That's quite interesting for sure.

Has a presidential transition been this clusterf*** esque before?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 03:44 PM) She was a legitimately awful candidate. Twice she was anointed the next President. Twice she blew it. There was just nothing about Hillary Clinton that spoke to the American people by and large, other than she wasn't Donald Trump. She could barely hold off Bernie Sanders for the nomination, and she lost to the worst Presidential major party candidate since Andrew Jackson. I mean you can try blaming the right wing for that, but if that was the case, how come they didn't work their magic to take down Barack Obama at some point? If Obama ran for a 3rd term I bet he beats DT haha.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 03:40 PM) And I'm confident that if the Bernie wing and far left hadn't legitimized and parroted the far right talking points and created the false equivalency narrative, she also would have won. If you are blaming her primary opponent of her losing that's pretty sad. It's time to face that if she was halfway decent should have crushed DT. Donald Trump is f***ing easy mode in video games. She lost to f***ing glass Joe, she is awful.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 12:26 PM) We have Trump because liberals ate their own. The far left attacked Clinton with the same vehemence as the far right, and fought their battles for them. Throwing in the towel on Booker and Warren because they're realistic and pragmatic and need to play politics to fight the battles that need to be fought is asinine. 46% people stayed home.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 24, 2017 -> 04:16 PM) so Warren's come out and said that she'll vote for Carson for HUD lol at me for thinking Democrats could make even token efforts in opposition. Maybe this is the democrats way of trying to sabotage the republican party, confirm all the picks, watch the carnage, and win the midterms in 2018?

we are 100% sure brett05 is not gregg's alter forum ego, right?

Prayer in school won't help children. You know what will? Good parenting! You know what could help most parents? Alleviating life's problems. How does one do that? Good paying jobs, healthcare, and counseling for parents. If mom is too busy working 3 minimum wage jobs to fully vest in her children and their children turn to the streets, no amount of prayer is going to salvage that kid. I can't stand religion and think it's the bane of human existence. I consider myself a morally sound person for the most part and I don't need a mythical sky daddy to tell me how to treat other beings in general.

the buster is going to get realllllllll good the next four years.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 24, 2017 -> 08:09 AM) His boasting to politicians that there were 3 million to 5 million illegal votes, thus costing him the popular vote is like Kim Jong Il boasting he had 11 holes in one the first time he golfed. Isn't is possible that some the illegal votes went Trump's way?

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 10:05 AM) Rubio today proved he has no spine. Tillerson?

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 09:36 AM) It's good to know that we elected a 13 year old girl as President of the United States. This should end well. #maga

Awesome, Trump and his ilk are adding words to the dictionary now?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 22, 2017 -> 11:25 AM) http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/mi...a-a7540476.html Not sure why Trump thinks this is necessary.

If you think Trump is going to improve the economy with his policies I have some beach property to sell you in Nebraska.

I wasn't around when Obama was first elected but was there this much talk about it like Trump?

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jan 20, 2017 -> 02:45 PM) I never said YOU specifically said she was strong. I said a lot of people -- professionals -- were saying it. As noted, the election was considered a joke until the actual results started pouring in...that's when the laughter stopped. That SNL skit with Chapelle and Rock summed it up nicely.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jan 20, 2017 -> 01:50 PM) Again. You likely said this EXACT same thing this time, too. And Hillary was a strong candidate...until she wasn't. For all you know in four years, Trump will have done some crazy s*** that somehow -- against all odds -- worked and his approval rating skyrockets...likely? Don't know. Possible? I do know. And yes, it's possible. I did say the exact same thing except I never thought Hillary was a strong candidate. Nice try though trollboy.