I'm hopin for at least 40 to 45 wins out of Buerhle, Loaiza and Garland this year. I think that should be a given, if they continue to pitch well and Garland continues to improve. KW thinks Coop can make a starter out of Shoe, I say be very, very happy if we get 10 wins out of him this year. Any success we get out of the 5th starter should be considered a bonus, da bullpen will be da key to us winnin a lot of close games if guys like Wunsch and Marte continue to dominate.