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October 28, 2005 – It was the largest turnout for a championship celebration in Chicago sports history as nearly two million people lined the parade route in the downtown area / South Side to honor the World Series champions. White Sox players and management addressed the crowd and Paul Konerko presented the last out / game ball to owner Jerry Reinsdorf. We've got some audio from the celebration with comments by Paul Konerko, Jerry Reinsdorf, Ozzie Guillen and Hawk Harrelson http://www.chicagonow.com/soxnet/2016/10/t...ox-on-parade-2/ And with that we conclude our This Day in White Sox History thread. I hope everyone enjoyed it and that it brought back some good memories. I also want to thank Dan Shapiro for his help without which this thread simply couldn't have been done. Mark

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Oct 29, 2016 -> 08:35 AM) Assuming Ramos doesn't take a 1-year pillow deal with the Nats, I'd like to try to sign him to one. Even though he's not going to be able to play until May / June? Mark

QUOTE (drowninginflame @ Oct 28, 2016 -> 04:35 PM) Hey folks, Long time lurker. This is the place I go to get all of my White Sox gossip and opinions, so keep up the awesome work. Anyhow, I'm a writer and I just wrote an essay about being a White Sox fan during this whole Cubsmania ordeal. I originally pitched to Sports Mockery but have yet to hear back, despite them posting a plenty of Cubs-related pieces. I reached out to Deadspin and am waiting on them, too. But, I'd love to get the piece some traction on a White Sox blog, Facebook page, etc. If you know of any you enjoy, or look to as a source of truth, or run one - please let me know. Thanks! Try Sox Net that's the one I write for. You need to contact Q, who is basically the "editor" of it. I'd give you his e-mail address but I don't know if that is allowed. If one of the mod's can let me know on this I'd appreciate it. If they say it is OK, I'll post it for you. Mark

QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 28, 2016 -> 12:48 PM) We're "All IN" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mark

QUOTE (knightni @ Oct 28, 2016 -> 11:54 AM) This is the reason why we hate the Cubs and their following. http://imgur.com/a/PNGwY The left magazine cover is from three weeks ago. They devoted the cover to a columnist awarding the Cubs the World Series championship. The right magazine cover is the first official cover (outside of Chicago) announcing that the Sox won the World Series. They gave the Sox a tiny corner of the cover and gave the NFL the bigger story. One of my biggest pet peeves. I write S.I. every year after they put the team on the cover that won the World Series to remind them about it and ask what the justification was since Brady / Manning was a REGULAR SEASON game. Mark

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Oct 27, 2016 -> 10:12 PM) Please post them if you can!! Go to my This Date in White Sox History thread. Have most of them there. Mark

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Oct 28, 2016 -> 12:20 AM) Well the two teams have two different budgets, the Cubs have a budget on par with the Dodgers, Yankees, Red Sox and Cardinals. The Sox have a mid tier budget. The Cardinals though despite having a new regional mega TV deal and one of the best fan bases in baseball don't have a major or extremely high budget. I've never understood that myself but that's how they operate. Mark

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 27, 2016 -> 10:03 PM) Get rid of Lawrie and play Saladino. acquire a GOOD catcher and GOOD reliever: in blockbuster trade; make it happen Mr. Hahn and we are a contender. Give up minor league talent for a good catcher and good reliever. 1. Saladino has a herniated disc in his lower back. Right now its an open question if he'll be able to play next season. 2. "Good" catchers are scarcer then hen's teeth, the price to get one may be overwhelming if any are even available. Mark

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Oct 27, 2016 -> 04:24 PM) I would say Avi has a much higher than a small chance at being non-tendered. I would say 80%. I sincerely hope you are right. Mark

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Oct 27, 2016 -> 06:36 PM) Big Game Shields just might surprise us in 2017 He may...he might only lose 15 games instead of 18 or so! Mark

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Oct 27, 2016 -> 12:40 PM) 180 IP of 4.80 ERA is all the Sox can ask for from Shields. If they can give him that, he's worth his deal. I guess pitching is scarcer then even I thought if these numbers make him "worth" anything. Mark

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Oct 27, 2016 -> 11:05 AM) All I want is for the love of god to pick a side. Either blow the WHOLE thing up or crack open the piggy bank. No more scrap heap lottery tickets. But saying all that, I don't really trust this organization to do either path correctly so it's going to take a miracle for this team to not be a garbage fire until there is a new owner. Agreed. Mark

Would be nice to see the Sox win something in the post season. Mark

History shows that from 1951 through 1967 the Sox outdrew the Cubs in 16 of the 17 seasons. Chicago was absolutely not a "Cubs town" during that time period. As someone who spent months researching and interview folks (including players) from that time period for my long two part historical piece called "Sox and the Media" I can tell you the Sox also got the lion's share of media coverage during that time period as well. The reasons were pretty simple, the Sox had winning seasons, they were usually contending for a pennant and they had nationally known and recognized star players. The Cubs had Ernie Banks, the "College of Coaches" and losing seasons. It's really not that hard to understand. Mark

October 26, 2005 - On this night the Sox became World Series champions for the first time since 1917 in Houston. Freddy Garcia and three relief pitchers shut out the Astros on five hits 1-0 sweeping the best of seven series four games to none. The Sox shut out Houston for the final 15 innings in series play. Outfielder Jermaine Dye drove in the game’s only run and was named the M.V.P. of the series. The South Side of Chicago exploded in an orgy of delight as fans celebrated all over the area. We've got the audio AND video of the final out capping a season to remember. Announcer: Joe Buck. Courtesy: Fox Sports. http://www.chicagonow.com/soxnet/2016/10/t...ox-win-sox-win/ Mark

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 27, 2016 -> 09:32 AM) The only guy that comes to mind as paying for his own stadium is Jerry Jones, and even that was only 2/3 of it. Arlington paid for the other 1/3. Am I missing someone? I mean it is cute and all to build this myth of a benevolent prince owner who is going to rescue us from our castle stadium and whisk us away to live happily ever after build us a new palace on the lake, but then real life calls. That doesn't actually happen anywhere. Billionaires get to be billionaires by being business savvy and having other people pay for things like a new stadium. The Giants baseball stadium was built and paid for by then owner Peter McGowen if I'm not mistaken and the Dophins football stadium was built by Joe Robbie with his money. Again this is from memory. Those are the only two that I can recall as being built and paid for by ownership. Mark

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 26, 2016 -> 05:53 AM) http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Cubs-...twork-Soon.html Assume that deal in the last paragraph expires in 2019? http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0124-story.html Good article looking at pros and cons of own network http://cubbiescrib.com/2016/01/25/chicago-...isk-and-reward/ Caul: I believe the actual Comcast deal runs through the 2019 season but the Cubs will announce specific details before that. Crain Kenney has already publicly said that is there plan, to form their own TV Network. Mark

QUOTE (Coach @ Oct 26, 2016 -> 06:39 AM) And who cares about many years ago. I am talking about the last 25 years. Wrigleyville was a dump many years ago but that does not count anymore. My point is that no matter how the Sox do compared to the Cubs, they Cubs will always fill their seats because of the stuff outside and around the stadium. Sox can't compete with that. Wasn't it around five or six years ago the TV showed all the empty bleacher seats at Wrigley because fans were upset and staying away? And to the main point, it could have happened 100 years ago...doesn't matter...the statement that Chicago has always been a Cubs town is historical wrong. Mark

QUOTE (Nokona @ Oct 25, 2016 -> 09:00 PM) If the Cubs sign Arrieta to a long term deal they'll have something ridiculous like 70+ million tied into him, a late 30s Lester and Heyward. Their payroll will become a serious issue. I don't think it will matter in the least. Wait till you see the money they get when they start their own Cubs-TV Network in 2019. Mark

October 25, 2005 - Game #3 of the World Series set the record for the longest game by time duration in history. The 14 inning game went 5:41 minutes in Houston and ended when another Sox role player, Geoff Blum belted a home run giving the club the lead at 6-5. It would end 7-5 with Game #2 starter Mark Buehrle picking up the save. We've got the audio AND video of Blum's blast. Announcer: Joe Buck. Courtesy: Fox Sports. http://www.chicagonow.com/soxnet/2016/10/t...ngs-in-houston/ Mark

Love it. Need more of it to the national media. Mark

QUOTE (Saufley @ Oct 25, 2016 -> 11:43 AM) In 2005 I was in Orlando during our 2005 World Series games. Just wondering what the media coverage was like and how it compares to what is on the airwaves and TV now? The coverage of the Sox during the 2005 playoff run was sustained and professional. It was not like the Cubs are getting now though with "over the top" hype, goofiness and unprofessionalism (i.e. reporters wearing Cub jerseys etc.) And I for one was happy about that. Now I grant you, certain organizations and individuals were not happy the Sox had gone as far as they did but never the less they did cover them. Mark

QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Oct 25, 2016 -> 09:42 AM) That scene of Ferris Bueuller was actually scheduled to be filmed at Comiskey, as John Hughes is a Sox fan. But they ran into time constraints or something, and it got moved to Wrigley. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferris_Buelle...f#Wrigley_Field I had heard that as well. The Sox had games to play or something while the Cubs were out of town. Mark

QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 25, 2016 -> 08:34 AM) Whether it's true or not, for people not old enough to remember, it certainly seems like the sox were ALWAYS also-rans. Ferris Bueller didn't go to Comiskey Park. Frank Sinatra didn't mention the sox, he had to be told not to forget about them. A large part of that is because the Sox decided not to take on the Cubs directly by their own words, made some major marketing and PR decisions that went south, used bad judgment in others (leaving WGN, SportsVision etc,) and as others have stated couldn't consistently win since the 17 year stretch from 1951-1967. The Cubs to their credit realized their team generally was awful but thanks to the brilliant marketing from John McDonough (who grew up a Sox fan by the way) that didn't matter. Throw in the power of the Tribune Company which owned them for like 30 years AND Superstation WGN (whom the Sox were off of for a period of time) and the results are there for all to see. Mark

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Oct 25, 2016 -> 08:01 AM) This is just nonsense. Up until the '90s when the Cubs started taking over it was a pretty even split. From 1901 to 1989 the Cubs won the attendance battle 46 times, the Sox won it 43 times. Total Cubs draw: 82,475,823 for an average of 926,694 per season. Total Sox draw: 75,212,098 for an average of 845,079 per season. A difference of roughly a whopping 1000 people per game. The Sox dominated them until the '20s. The '20s were pretty split. The Cubs took over through the '30s and '40s. Then the Sox dominated them through the '50s and '60s. Cubs got em in the '70s and the '80s were pretty much split. The Cubs have lost 100+ games three times in their history. The Sox outdrew them in two of those seasons. The notion that the city has been and always will be a Cubs town is just blatantly false. If the Sox start winning consistently the fans will come out. VERY well stated. Mark