Ducksnort

They shot themselves in the foot. At least that's what it's looking like will happen. It's their own fault.

It'll be delayed now, at the very least, no doubt about it. I remember a long time ago before covid, some people on here predicted this would happen. That right when the Sox turned good, the cba would expire and baseball would be cancelled to some extent. Right after the rebuild. I didn't believe them, shunting them as negative nellies, but boy were they ever right. Cudos to yall, whoever you are.

This season is ovah!

So the lockout is not just a negotiating tactic for players (which obviously hasn't worked like manbutt thought it would) but for big spending owners as well?

You are probably right. But, it's starting to hit mainstream news. Just saw them mention it on ABC 7. Hopefully that creates pressure.

I'm 27. At the rate this is going, I'll see a billion dollar contract in my lifetime.

Maybe this time the players can bring donuts and coffee to sweeten the deal. Or bring a 6 pack for Manfred and they can get him drunk like he was at the 2020 WS on live TV.

This isn't going to end anytime soon...this whole ordeal can be summarized into one phrase: what a joke.

That too, and I agree. But who nowadays can be relied upon to stay healthy over the course of a full season? You could say the same thing about Eloy, Robert, Moncada, Grandal...but obviously their talent is far and away above that of Engel's. No position player on this team, aside from maybe Abreu, can be relied upon to remain healthy. Maybe this new training staff will change that though.

Trade Kimbrel for literally anything. Then watch him become an allstar reliever for another team again...

I actually think that, if Engel can remain healthy, he could be atleast an average hitter with some pop (and we all knew what he can do defensively). He showed flashes of it in a shortened 2020. Last year was his chance to prove it over a full season but injuries got to him. The problem is, Sox are in no position for tryouts, and they need a lefty. Engel will have to serve as our primary backup OF...at least to start.

True. You could just have the same guy hit all the time and have designated runners on the bases.

I wonder what it would be like if no one in the lineup played defense, and no one on the field hit. Like, you have players that focus solely on perfecting their defense and don't even have to worry about swinging a bat, and then just 9 DH's that just need to perfect their swing. Like how football has offense only and defense only players. Obviously this would never happen...you're talking about adding a lot more players to the active roster...but it's fun to think about how it would change the game.

Wonder if this is due to age, he's done putting up with (and possibly contributing to) the b.s., or both.

Manfred scheduled to address media on Thursday. This should stir the pot a bit...

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This is actually a really mature thing to do.

So the players proposed the pool to be $105 million, the owners counted with $10 million?, and then the players counter that with $100 million lmao.

According to MLB on FOX, the 90 minute meeting they had today was "heated" and they are still very far apart. Holy balls. What a bunch of losers.

I really like Gordon's personality. As a broadcaster...meh. But seems like a really cool dude. His offensive output was maddening but he played defense very well.

I don't think making it to the world series twice in a row amounts to stumbling into success. Luck, yes, every winning team needs luck on their side. But the Royals were just really good for 2 years...and then were like, you know what? We like being irrelevant a lot better. And then sucked again ?‍♂️

Eh, I still think there needs to be a postseason. But there has got to be a better way to make it less random.

Wow. Finally.

At this point I just want the season to start on time and for each team to play 162.

This whole thing is just so stupid and childish. All of it.