May 27, 20178 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ May 27, 2017 -> 12:13 PM) Who cares about batting average? The sabes people don't give a flip about BA. Wrong
May 27, 20178 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ May 27, 2017 -> 12:13 PM) Who cares about batting average? The sabes people don't give a flip about BA. Batting average is very important. Without considering context, the most desired appearances per at bat as thus: Home run Triple Double Single/Walk Out The top 3 are all batting average dependent. Now, if you add context - in this instance, one baserunner - a single becomes preferable to a walk. A runner on 1st can advance to 3rd on a single, but cannot on a walk; a runner on 2nd can score on a single, but doesn't move on a walk; a runner on 3rd WILL score on a single (barring the least likely of exceptions), but will not move with 2 walks. What a "sabe" would argue is that the value of batting averages lacks context - it suggests that a home run is equal to a single, which is clearly is not. Thus, things like Iso should be look at while considering batting average too. If a guy is a .270 hitter but has an Iso of .080, he can be a starter, but he should be hitting lower in the lineup. On the flip side, a guy who is a .270 hitter with an Iso of .250 should be hitting near the middle of the lineup because he's a significant power threat. You just hope he is also disciplined enough to walk enough too.
May 28, 20178 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ May 27, 2017 -> 12:13 PM) Who cares about batting average? The sabes people don't give a flip about BA. It's useful in context, it's value has just been inflated for some time now. Batting .300 with an OBP of .300 is meh. Batting .300 with an OBP of .389 is a lot better.
May 28, 20178 yr I think we left Miggy Cabrera off the HoF list...he's the closest to a sure thing. Obviously, David Ortiz will make it, despite the lingering PEDs whispered and supposedly failed test. Boston Strong!!! Curse out the terrorists, you're basically set for life.
May 28, 20178 yr It seems a lot of people on this thread are trying to oversimplify. I would agree with the people like ptatc and wite in that regardless of what weight or importance you assign to it, outright ignoring any information is an unwise decision. The best way to do it I would think would be to consider all information and assign appropriate weights to each, almost all of which should be non-zero.
May 28, 20178 yr So there should be one determining factor like the BCS Rankings or or an accepted universal formula like RPI for NCAA bb?
May 28, 20178 yr QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 28, 2017 -> 02:31 AM) So there should be one determining factor like the BCS Rankings or or an accepted universal formula like RPI for NCAA bb? WAR is the best we've done, and it's 100x better than RPI.
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