Skip to content
View in the app

A better way to browse. Learn more.

Soxtalk.com

A full-screen app on your home screen with push notifications, badges and more.

To install this app on iOS and iPadOS
  1. Tap the Share icon in Safari
  2. Scroll the menu and tap Add to Home Screen.
  3. Tap Add in the top-right corner.
To install this app on Android
  1. Tap the 3-dot menu (⋮) in the top-right corner of the browser.
  2. Tap Add to Home screen or Install app.
  3. Confirm by tapping Install.

Close Safe/Out Call at First Base

Featured Replies

On a close play at first base, is the runner out when the ball enters the glove or when the ball touches the back of the glove? I swear I have heard announcers say it just needs to enter the glove, but I can’t find an official rule on that through my various Google searches. Anybody have a link for that rule?

I have no link but I'm pretty sure it's when the player has control of the baseball...which in my opinion would be when it hits the back of the glove.

  • Author
1 minute ago, ScooterMcGee said:

I have no link but I'm pretty sure it's when the player has control of the baseball...which in my opinion would be when it hits the back of the glove.

That’s what I always thought and what makes the most sense, but that’s why what an announcer said (maybe Benetti?) is sticking out to me. I was surprised when I heard it. 

It's as soon as it makes contact with the glove, provided that contact leads directly to being in control of the ball. So 99% of the time, that's hitting the back of the glove.

  • Author
1 hour ago, Eminor3rd said:

It's as soon as it makes contact with the glove, provided that contact leads directly to being in control of the ball. So 99% of the time, that's hitting the back of the glove.

Do you have a link to that rule?

I have heard announcers say that umpires will rely on the sound of it hitting the glove while they watch the bag so I would think that would mean the pop when it hits the back of the glove.

They said tonight it’s when ball is in the interior of the glove 

  • Author
32 minutes ago, fathom said:

They said tonight it’s when ball is in the interior of the glove 

This is exactly what I’ve heard. So it doesn’t need to touch the back of the glove, right?  Who said that?

1 minute ago, SoxBlanco said:

This is exactly what I’ve heard. So it doesn’t need to touch the back of the glove, right?  Who said that?

ESPN crew.  The funny thing is Astros fans swear Palmeiro was safe on the last out of 2005.  Definitely looks out to me.

Considering  the large first baseman's gloves and so many close plays at first this is a good question. On "bang-bang" plays  the ump sometimes listens for the sound of the ball hitting the glove while looking at the base to see when contact was made. If you couple that with the rule that clear video evidence is needed to overturn a call on the field it still leaves some wiggle room. Back in the day, "tie goes to the runner" was a gentlemanly way that these close plays got resolved. Now we need frame by frame analysis by off-site experts in NY.

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

Recently Browsing 0

  • No registered users viewing this page.

Account

Navigation

Search

Search

Configure browser push notifications

Chrome (Android)
  1. Tap the lock icon next to the address bar.
  2. Tap Permissions → Notifications.
  3. Adjust your preference.
Chrome (Desktop)
  1. Click the padlock icon in the address bar.
  2. Select Site settings.
  3. Find Notifications and adjust your preference.