CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: It would so awful to be like Baltimore and coming off of multiple seasons in a row in the playoffs with one of the youngest offenses in the game. Those poor fans. The Sox made the playoffs 2 years in a row for the 1st time in franchise history and then it crashed and burned. I don't think the Orioles will burn as spectacularly as the Sox did but stagnation is coming if they can't find a way to get some top flight pitching to match their hitters. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they don't make the playoffs this year. Then it 'll be 2 playoff years in a row with 2 1st round exits just like the Sox. The rest of that division will doom you to 3rd place pretty quickly if they dilly dally making any significant lasting pitching additions. The only thing helping them now is TB might have run out of whatever magic they performed to be as good as they were for as long as they were and Boston losing some luster. Baltimore is still very good with some prospects that hit it big but that's only a part of a championship equation . But successful rebuilds have usually finished it off with high spending like the Cubs and Astros. Despite all their success with trades and their , scouting and infrastructure Tampa Bay could never win a championship nor did the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 4 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Are we going to cry about 2024 forever ? The corpse is barely in the ground... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: The Sox made the playoffs 2 years in a row for the 1st time in franchise history and then it crashed and burned. I don't think the Orioles will burn as spectacularly as the Sox did but stagnation is coming if they can't find a way to get some top flight pitching to match their hitters. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they don't make the playoffs this year. Then it 'll be 2 playoff years in a row with 2 1st round exits just like the Sox. The rest of that division will doom you to 3rd place pretty quickly if they dilly dally making any significant lasting pitching additions. The only thing helping them now is TB might have run out of whatever magic they performed to be as good as they were for as long as they were and Boston losing some luster. Baltimore is still very good with some prospects that hit it big but that's only a part of a championship equation . But successful rebuilds have usually finished it off with high spending like the Cubs and Astros. Despite all their success with trades and their , scouting and infrastructure Tampa Bay could never win a championship nor did the Sox. To be fair Cali 2020 was a bastardized 60 game season. They did make the playoffs but if they'd be able to do so if a usual schedule was played is an honest question. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, Tnetennba said: The corpse is barely in the ground... There were 101 losses in 2023 following a .500 record in 2022 .It was apparent to anyone paying attention the rebuild was dead and a new rebuild had begun. Unfortunately people chose that moment of hiring Getz to start believing JRs BS about a quick turnaround. I don't know if people were feigning being hurt by the lie just to magnify the total forked tongue nature of JR but typically when you tear down in the 1st year of a rebuild it's not pretty. We weren't expecting the Hindenburg either but it wasn't exactly a huge shock they were going to have another 100+ loss season. Getz got handed a s%*# sandwich and he swallowed it. He didn't like it very much and didn't know quite how to handle it. That much was obvious. He couldn't change the culture or the defense overnight like he talked about. But he did hire Bannister so a plan slowly took shape. Trade your assets and see if you can get more assets, rebuild the infrastructure, hire quality people , dumpster dive fringey arms , pick up a few position players with solid track records who come cheap and hope your new coaches and infrastructure based on communication ,scouting ,development and modernization pays off slightly before you are all fired once JR dies and the team is sold . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 24 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: To be fair Cali 2020 was a bastardized 60 game season. They did make the playoffs but if they'd be able to do so if a usual schedule was played is an honest question. Throw up all the asterisks you want . The team that won the Series that year still counts as a Championship. It's just typical of most Sox ownership to not even have that much success. Their rebuild ran into COVID and labor strife 2 major setbacks and their own incompetentcy. Reinsdorf would sabotage his own teams chance at a Championship in 94. Then they had one of the best RH hitters in baseball history and jerked him around with diminished skills clause. Besides my point was the Orioles could end up the same way, good start to a rebuild but not able to finish it off. My point wasn't that the Sox did a great job with the rebuild. They certainly did not in spectacularly crazy bad ways. Management was arrogant and petty and started believing their own press clippings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 6 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Other teams spend on things like this all the time and still manage to also have a reasonable payroll. The Sox have to do this now because they’ve failed in choosing the wrong front office, scouting, development, and technology for years and years. And we still don’t know if they nailed it this time either. No bonus points granted for that. If I were a betting man it would be easy to bet that they did not nail it this time either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 2 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: The Sox made the playoffs 2 years in a row for the 1st time in franchise history and then it crashed and burned. I don't think the Orioles will burn as spectacularly as the Sox did but stagnation is coming if they can't find a way to get some top flight pitching to match their hitters. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they don't make the playoffs this year. Then it 'll be 2 playoff years in a row with 2 1st round exits just like the Sox. The rest of that division will doom you to 3rd place pretty quickly if they dilly dally making any significant lasting pitching additions. The only thing helping them now is TB might have run out of whatever magic they performed to be as good as they were for as long as they were and Boston losing some luster. Baltimore is still very good with some prospects that hit it big but that's only a part of a championship equation . But successful rebuilds have usually finished it off with high spending like the Cubs and Astros. Despite all their success with trades and their , scouting and infrastructure Tampa Bay could never win a championship nor did the Sox. Campbell and Anthony look like pretty sure fire stars and Mayer isn't far behind...wouldn't rule anything out with Boston overtaking TB and Toronto (unless they can afford Alonso too). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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