soxfan420 Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 he brought in olivo, marte, adkins etc. most of those trades people where calling for his head on. adkins for durham isnt a great trade but he knew he couldnt resign him and got us some talent in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndySoxFan Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 kenny williams....YES i think he is doing pretty good with loot he has to spend... oo oo ooh for a 80 million dollar budget! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 I'll give him credit when we're back in the post season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 I think another big test will be who he adds in a play-off run, but I do think he's done a good job so far... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 I think another big test will be who he adds in a play-off run, but I do think he's done a good job so far... So far, but that and 50 cents will get you...(You know the rest). I liked the additions last year, but let's see if this year they'll add some payroll instead of depleting the minor league system. It will be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 he brought in olivo, marte, adkins etc. most of those trades people where calling for his head on. adkins for durham isnt a great trade but he knew he couldnt resign him and got us some talent in it. I'm with ya on that one totally. He's done a lot with a little and made the last couple of seasons bearable with his moves. He certainly gets props. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 He's getting me to the point where I'm neutral about him and that's a major step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Yeah let's give him lot's of credit for getting adkins -- all he had to do to get him was give up an allstar second baseman -- plus pay part of the Ray durhams salary -- It's a good thing we had someone waiting in the wings to fill that hole at second/leadoff -- We've had some real production out of the 2B/leadoff spot ever since Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Yeah let's give him lot's of credit for getting adkins -- all he had to do to get him was give up an allstar second baseman -- plus pay part of the Ray durhams salary -- It's a good thing we had someone waiting in the wings to fill that hole at second/leadoff -- We've had some real production out of the 2B/leadoff spot ever since I never did understand the logic behind that trade. Ummmmm .... perhaps logic isn't an appropriate word to use here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 i thought he traded him because we couldnt afford to keep durham in the first place?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 i thought he traded him because we couldnt afford to keep durham in the first place?? He traded him mid-season, but still ended up paying most of his salary. We got Adkins out of the deal, but a guy of Durham's capabilities should have brought much more with us still paying the salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 We should've gotten more out of that deal but I thought I remember hearing that Ray-Ray was shooting his mouth off about KW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 We should've gotten more out of that deal but I thought I remember hearing that Ray-Ray was shooting his mouth off about KW. That doesn't carry any weight with me. Durham was an asset of a certain value and we should have been able to get similar value for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan420 Posted April 28, 2004 Author Share Posted April 28, 2004 That doesn't carry any weight with me. Durham was an asset of a certain value and we should have been able to get similar value for him. that we couldnt afford to retain, and there was no playoff team in the hunt that needed a 2b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Marte yes, JV for 5 mil hell no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gene Honda Civic Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 that we couldnt afford to retain, and there was no playoff team in the hunt that needed a 2b First of all -- We still paid Durham -- Second, We sent him to a Oakland, who's been in the playoffs every year since 2000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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