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you should post -- There's been far too many "what nickname should we give...." and "OMG Oprah is a Sox fan" threads lately... it would be nice to get back to some substance.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jan 27, 2005 -> 02:26 AM)

you should post -- There's been far too many "what nickname should we give...." and "OMG Oprah is a Sox fan" threads lately... it would be nice to get back to some substance.

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We could really use some more new bulls*** stats threads.

We could really use some more new bulls*** stats threads.

Why did you use green?

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jan 27, 2005 -> 02:05 PM)

Why did you use green?

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Because these projections for next year are really stupid. (ZiPS, and other s***.)

 

I also saw a new way to "calculate" patience by a hitter. (OBP)-(BA.) :rolly

Give me a break.

The games are not played on paper.

Because these projections for next year are really stupid. (ZiPS, and other s***.)

 

I also saw a new way to "calculate" patience by a hitter.  (OBP)-(BA.) :rolly

Give me a break.

The games are not played on paper.

Well you two numbskulls sure laid out the welcome wagon... :finger

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jan 27, 2005 -> 05:30 PM)

Well you two numbskulls sure laid out the welcome wagon... :finger

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I assume SABRsox has other things to talk about other than sabermetrics. SABR, do you know any famous Sox fans?

 

I assume SABRsox has other things to talk about other than sabermetrics.  SABR, do you know any famous Sox fans? 

By my earlier question of "why did you use green?" I was agreeing with you.

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Ok that wasnt funny but I wanted to say it

I also saw a new way to "calculate" patience by a hitter.  (OBP)-(BA.) :rolly

 

 

That's not exactly cutting edge stuff right there.... But it is very useful

 

              OBP

       Crede      Uribe

2002    .311       .286

2003    .308       .297

2004    .299       .327

 

Both players have a nice trend going here. So we can assume that Crede must be getting worse at taking walks, and Uribe is getting better right?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

WRONG

 

 

              ISO

       Crede      Uribe

2002    .026       .046

2003    .047       .043

2004    .060       .044

 

Uribe has been walking at almost exactly the same rate, his rising OBP was directly tied to his rising BA. Meanwhile, Crede has been walking more often, yet, his OBP has fallen because his BA has been falling.

So how is that useful?

So how is that useful?

For when Billy Beane wants to get "kinky"

For when Billy Beane wants to get "kinky"

How long did it take you to come up with that one?

For when Billy Beane wants to get "kinky"

That's the wrong bill bean. :headshake

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/beanbi01.shtml

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/beanebi01.shtml

So how is that useful?

 

Usually having a man on base is 'useful' to an offense.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 10:18 PM)

Usually having a man on base is 'useful' to an offense.

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Quit trying to argue with me for the sake of arguing 406. God. :headshake

 

I was talking about the way some of these stat heads try to calculate patience from BA and OBP.

Quit trying to argue with me for the sake of arguing 406.  God.  :headshake

 

I was talking about the way some of these stat heads try to calculate patience from BA and OBP.

 

I'll drop my argumentative ways (which, I do -- wrongfully so, at that, a real bad habit that must be dropped before I begin college), if you drop the 'bulls*** stats' line...

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Feb 8, 2005 -> 01:41 PM)

I'll drop my argumentative ways (which, I do -- wrongfully so, at that,  a real bad habit that must be dropped before I begin college), if you drop the 'bulls*** stats' line... 

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I don't think all stats are bulls***, just some of the newer ones.

 

Foulke's best season was NOT 2000! What about K-Rod's season in 2004?