Jordan4life_2007 Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 QUOTE(knightni @ Apr 2, 2005 -> 04:25 PM) #1 - Buehrle is a given for me right now. 18 wins, 3.50 or less ERA, 150-170 Ks. #2 - Looking at him since the trade, Garcia still seems shaky. Pretty average really. #3 - El Duque is a mystery to me, I haven't seen him pitch this ST. #4 - Contreras really worries me. I would almost be tempted to move him into the number-five spot. #5 - I'm feeling more confident with Garland than I was last year, I think he could handle the #4 job. Garcia is ALOT better than average. His era was higher with us, but he was 10-4 as a member of the Sox. We all know what Hernandez can do when healthy, I wouldn't worry about him too much. I'm with you as far as Contreras goes. I don't know what to expect out of him. I agree with what you said about Buehrle and Garland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2004 @ Apr 2, 2005 -> 05:37 PM) Garcia is ALOT better than average. His era was higher with us, but he was 10-4 as a member of the Sox. We all know what Hernandez can do when healthy, I wouldn't worry about him too much. I'm with you as far as Contreras goes. I don't know what to expect out of him. I agree with what you said about Buehrle and Garland. Gotta trust the unbiased opinion of a man with the guy in his avatar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 QUOTE(knightni @ Apr 2, 2005 -> 04:39 PM) Gotta trust the unbiased opinion of a man with the guy in his avatar. lol. I'm being honest. Do you really think Garcia is just average? I don't. He's not an ace or true#1. But the guy is good for 15+wins, atleast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 i want ben sheets at the trade dead line damn it hell will freeze over before that happens thou. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 i want ben sheets at the trade dead line damn it hell will freeze over before that happens thou. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The Brewers are currently trying to sign him to a deal similar to Johan Santana's -- 4 years, $40 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Jabroni @ Apr 2, 2005 -> 10:53 PM) The Brewers are currently trying to sign him to a deal similar to Johan Santana's -- 4 years, $40 million. hence the phrase, hell will freeze over before that happens. edited so i can be a nice guy today: however, thanks for the info Edited April 2, 2005 by hi8is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 hence the phrase, hell will freeze over before that happens. edited so i can be a nice guy today: however, thanks for the info <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Latest News Mar. 29, 2005 - 4:13 am et The Brewers are trying to work out a long-term contract with Ben Sheets before the end of spring training. Sheets, who was named Milwaukee's Opening Day starter yesterday, is signed for $6 million for 2005 and doesn't become a free agent until after the 2006 season. His agent met with general manager Doug Melvin yesterday. ''We had a good meeting,'' Melvin said. ''Everything seems to be going OK.'' Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 well, it seems there goes that trade bait darn, i have a feeling the red sox are gonna need someone like sheets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 (edited) well, it seems there goes that trade bait darn, i have a feeling the red sox are gonna need someone like sheets. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> We would probably have to give up McCarthy to get Sheets anyways. Afterall, we had to give up Reed AND Olivo for Garcia. Sheets definately wouldn't come cheap. Edited April 2, 2005 by Jabroni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 neop not cheep at all i think mcarthy has a chance to be almost as good as sheets, id take that chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 neop not cheep at all i think mcarthy has a chance to be almost as good as sheets, id take that chance <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Agreed. No way we give up on a guy who could be a stud and won't cost $10 million a year like Sheets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 Mark & Freddy - 2nd best 1-2 ALC Contreras - 4th best #3 ALC Hernandez + BMac - Best #4 ALC Garland - Best #5 ALC Even with Mays & Lohse having better springs, I still pick the ChiSox 4-5 as the best in the ALC. Contreras is obviously the weakest link but I did see some signs of hope in his last start. The potential is still there for him to be the best #3 in the ALC. If that emerges the ChiSox should win the div. The pen will tell us whether this team is ready to win in Oct or not. It's definitely going to be better than 04. Of this I have no doubt. But I did see signs this spring where Shingo-Marte could be the best in ALC. Not indiv but combined. Marte looked much better. Overall I think we're ready to win. Several struggling players picked it up in the last 2 weeks (Crede) so I'm more optimistic now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 I'd deal B-Mac in a minute for Sheets but I think there is no way that the Brew Crew would do that trade. If they trade him, which it appears a given that they now won't, they are going to get a king's ransom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 QUOTE(knightni @ Apr 2, 2005 -> 04:25 PM) #2 - Looking at him since the trade, Garcia still seems shaky. Pretty average really. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Average? (road stats last season) Player A: 3.25 ERA 1.04 WHIP .585 OPS against 10.15 K/9 Player B: 2.58 ERA .926 WHIP .576 OPS against 9.73 K/9 Player C: 2.77 ERA .88 WHIP .541 OPS against 10.17 K/9 Player D: 2.63 ERA 1.07 WHIP .631 OPS against 6.03 K/9 Would you consider all or any of these players "average?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Apr 3, 2005 -> 04:23 PM) Average? (road stats last season) Player A: 3.25 ERA 1.04 WHIP .585 OPS against 10.15 K/9 Player B: 2.58 ERA .926 WHIP .576 OPS against 9.73 K/9 Player C: 2.77 ERA .88 WHIP .541 OPS against 10.17 K/9 Player D: 2.63 ERA 1.07 WHIP .631 OPS against 6.03 K/9 Would you consider all or any of these players "average?" Without doing any research, I know who A is, and I believe I know who D is. Who are the other two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 (edited) B is Johan, C is Randy Johnson. Average Cy Young Candidates. :rolly Edited April 3, 2005 by santo=dorf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 I'm not worried. I'll be worried after the first two months. I'm sure Kenny will make a trade if he has to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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