SoxFan1 Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 I'll give them a C. I like the Chirs Harris pick and it seems like Benson will be good. Bradley is the key to our draft in my mind. If he pans out, it bumps the grade up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 I give them a solid B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted April 25, 2005 Author Share Posted April 25, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Apr 24, 2005 -> 09:02 PM) I give them a solid B. Any reasoning??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 C, I dropped them a half letter grade for drafting Rodriques Wilson. I'm not a huge fan of drafting criminals. (I am well aware that Cedric Benson has a rap sheet as well.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 I gave them a B, I think they really dropped the ball on passing on Mike Williams... and than if they didnt think Thomas Jones was the man J.J. Arrington was available in the 2nd round. But if Benson turns out to be as good as Ricky Williams just without ditching the team and leaving the country and Bradley becomes a solid contributer still a good draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Apr 24, 2005 -> 08:04 PM) Any reasoning??? They got a back that dominated college and is the type of back Ron Turner is looking for. They got two fast potentially dangerous playmakers. And a QB insurance policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted April 25, 2005 Author Share Posted April 25, 2005 (edited) I probably would gone:  4) Mike Williams, WR, USC  39) JJ Arrington, RB, Cal  106) Elton Brown, OL, Virginia  140) Dante Nicholson, S, Oklahoma  181) Timmy Chang, QB, Hawaii  220) Cornelius Wortham, OLB, Alabama  EDIT: FYI, all these guys WERE available when the Bears were on the clock. Edited April 25, 2005 by SoxFan1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxman352000 Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 I just don't see how they passed up a big play reciever like Mike Williams and how they don't don't draft s*** on the o-line. I like the Orton pick up though they get a C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 They have 5 starters on the oline plus a handful of guys that can provide a little depth  WR/RB/QB/S were greater needs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted April 25, 2005 Author Share Posted April 25, 2005 Brown would have been the PERFECT replacement for Tucker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 I gave them a C. I agree that they should have gone with Mike Williams first, and JJ Arrington in the second round. Then again, we have the benefit of hindsight, perhaps they thought Arrington would be gone by then, who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Whoever voted F dont hide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted April 25, 2005 Author Share Posted April 25, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Apr 24, 2005 -> 09:35 PM) Whoever voted F dont hide Bet it was a Packer fan...........let's see.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Apr 24, 2005 -> 07:15 PM) 181) Timmy Chang, QB, Hawaii  Don't let the recordbooks fool you, he'll never amount to anything in the NFL. If he ever catches on somewhere, he'll be a clipboard quarterback. Nothing more, nothing less.  Angelo gets a B.  I have all the faith in the world in his drafting ability. Although Cedric may not have been the popular choice, I think he'll thrive up here. He's just a workhorse and a guy that can get 30 carries a game, week in and week out. Some people think we had a good thing with A-Train, and that's fine, but Anthony Thomas will never be a Pro-Bowler. That is what seperates him from Cedric. Benson could become one of the leauge's primer backs in two years time. He has a chip on his shoulder and I think he'll live up to his billing.  Until Angelo produces a poor draft class, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.  By the way, Kyle Orton could be the jewel of the class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goober Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Apr 24, 2005 -> 08:35 PM) Whoever voted F dont hide man i'm not scared of you. there was no option for other so i had to choose the f Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 I gave them a C, Benson yes is a solid pick I would have rather of seen them take Mike Williams. They need more help at WR than RB. I think one of the biggest steals could have been getting Orton actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controlled Chaos Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 I think they had a hell of a draft. Benson will be the man here and Jones will be the change of pace back...not to mention you just need two solid backs now in the NFL. I wanted a RB over Mike Williams. Â They addressed O line in free agency by signing Fred Miller and Roberto Garza. They still have Marc Colombo who I think will be back playing strong this year and provides depth at tackle, as well as Qasim Mitchell who can go tackle or guard. Ruben Brown is still playing well. Also there's Metcalf and Edwards wh are both serviceable. Â They needed playmakers and I think they got them. Bradley and Currie can provide the speed the Bears need to complement Mushin. I also think Orton can be the steal of the draft. Â Overall Grade - B+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 I gave them a D Â 1st- Benson.. WE have a RB.. Wasted Pick. 2nd- Bradley.. Most had him going in the 4th or 5th round.. 4th- Orton.. Only reason I didn't give them an F..Pretty sad the best pick is a 4th rounder 5th-Currie.. WR that IMO will not make the team 6th and7th.. Back up DB.. Â The Bears had a chance in 04 when they hired Smith to be an elite team in Football, but since week 3 this team is slowing going backwards instead of forward. ANd this draft further proves my point, All other Teams in the NFC North got stronger, we somehow stayed the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 I don't see how this can be anything other than an A. They didn't even havea 3rd round pick, yet addressed many needs and filled 2 of their biggest. Â First pick they get an RB that can take a full load of carries and has been mentioned by many as the best RB in the draft. He can block and run and fits the Bears system under Ron Turner perfectly. Â Second pick they get Mark a very good WR in the second round. Mark Bradley is very explosive and can be a great compliment to Mushin Muhammed on the other side. Â Third pick, in the fourth round they get a QB that was seen by many as the 3rd best QB in the draft. Orton is a huge kid with a canon for an arm. He could take some time to develop, but could be absolutely awesome. This is an absolutely great pick for the fourth round. Â Right there they addressed the majority of their needs. Then the rest of the way they come away with another burner at WR and 2 safeties that could possibly contribute down the road. Even if these last 3 players don't contribute on offense or defense they will be solid special teamers as all of them have speed. Personally I believe the Bears did a great job and the organization actually had a plan in place and followed it to perfection. Â I know a lot here are pissed at not getting Mike Williams, but damn get over it. Cedric Benson is a damn good player and Mark Bradley fits what this team needs more. We did not need a Mushin Muhammed clone on the opposite side of him. We needed a burner that could stretch the field and make some big plays opposite Mushin, and I believe Mark Bradley is better suited for this than Mike Williams is. Â This draft is definately an A! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Apr 25, 2005 -> 02:13 PM) I gave them a D 1st- Benson.. WE have a RB.. Wasted Pick. 2nd- Bradley.. Most had him going in the 4th or 5th round.. 4th- Orton.. Only reason I didn't give them an F..Pretty sad the best pick is a 4th rounder 5th-Currie.. WR that IMO will not make the team 6th and7th.. Back up DB..  The Bears had a chance in 04 when they hired Smith to be an elite team in Football, but since week 3 this team is slowing going backwards instead of forward. ANd this draft further proves my point, All other Teams in the NFC North got stronger, we somehow stayed the same. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>  1st - We have an RB that fit the old offensive system, not the new one. Thomas Jones has never had a complete season and is often injured. Cedric Benson is a proven work load RB that is tough to bring down and some scouts say he is the best goal line back that they have ever seen. Definately not a wasted pick  2nd - I have seen him going in the third, but not 4th or 5th round. Bears didn't have a third.  4th - I agree, although it is not their best pick. Best value? Yes, perhaps.  5th - who cares, it is worth the risk, it is a 5th rounder  6th and 7th are guys with speed who will make an immediate impact on special teams and could eventually turn into quality safeties.  I don't see how Det or GB got stronger. Det didn't do much of anything if you ask me. Mike Williams doesn't even fit there. They just signed Marcus Pollard and already have Charles Rogers and Roy Williams. They spend a first round pick on a slot receiver? I find that kind of strange and a waste of a pick. He is not Randy Moss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controlled Chaos Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 (edited) Benson a wasted pick cause we already have a RB?? Whatever dude...The Bears have a player to play every postion already so should they have not showed at all. Â I'd love to see where you saw Bradley going in the 4th or 5th round. I have seen 2nd or early 3rd, but not 4th or 5th. They may have got him a little early cause they din't have a third, but I'll trust that Angelo knows him better than you or me. He has speed and great moves. He averaged over 20 yards per touch last year. I'll take him as a target for Rex. Edited April 25, 2005 by Controlled Chaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Detroit and Green Bay got real value out of their 1st round picks. Two weeks ago, Rodgers was supposed to be the number 1 overall pick, and Williams was at the top of Kiper's board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Apr 25, 2005 -> 01:15 AM) I probably would gone: 4) Mike Williams, WR, USC  39) JJ Arrington, RB, Cal  106) Elton Brown, OL, Virginia  140) Dante Nicholson, S, Oklahoma  181) Timmy Chang, QB, Hawaii  220) Cornelius Wortham, OLB, Alabama  EDIT: FYI, all these guys WERE available when the Bears were on the clock. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>  Mike Williams does not fit the Bears' needs. JJ Arrington does not fit the Bears offensive system. Elton Brown? WHY?!?! Dante Nicholson?!?!? WHY?!?! Timmy Chang is not very good at all and Orton is MUCH BETTER!!!!! Why sign a OLB when there are guys available to sign right now who are much better suited to start for us? Warrick Holdman and Chad Brown are both available if the Bears need a LB. I would have shot myself if this was our draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 QUOTE(soxman352000 @ Apr 25, 2005 -> 01:18 AM) I just don't see how they passed up a big play reciever like Mike Williams and how they don't don't draft s*** on the o-line. I like the Orton pick up though they get a C <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Â I thought we addressed the OL in free agency. NO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(YASNY @ Apr 25, 2005 -> 02:54 PM) Detroit and Green Bay got real value out of their 1st round picks. Two weeks ago, Rodgers was supposed to be the number 1 overall pick, and Williams was at the top of Kiper's board. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>  Rodgers is no better than Orton in my opinion. Both of them will be sitting on the sidelines learning for at least 2 years. The only difference is the Packers have to pay first round money and take a huge salary cap hit while he is sitting as a back up to Brett Favre. Our first round pick will be running through their swiss cheese defense.  Williams is a very strange pick. Why would the sign Pollard in the offseason to go along with Roy Williams and Charles Rogers only to use a high first round pick on a slot receiver? He is not Randy Moss. He is not someone that you will bring in with Chris Carter and Jake Reed and just send him deep for home runs. Silly pick if you ask me.  Value? HOW?  I understand what you are a saying, that they got value because they fell further than they should have. However, if they don't fit and fill their needs how does it add to THEIR value? Their respective teams are really no better off today as they were before the draft. Edited April 25, 2005 by southsideirish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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