http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Countdown...obson-Miers.wmv

 

Pat Buchanan threw James Dobson under the bus yesterday while discussing his outrage over the Harriet Miers nomination on Countdown:

 

BUCHANAN: Listen, I would be surprised if the Judiciary Committee does not subpoena Dr. Dobson and ask him, what were you told by Karl Rove and were you given indications that Ms. Harriet Miers would overturn Roe v. Wade?

 

I find it scary that I'm agreeing more and more with Pat Buchanan (outside of the homophobia, anti-Semitism and most economic policy)

America the beautiful. In the predominantly leftist community known as SOXTALK I'm considered to be a member of the right wing. Yet in the greater whole of America I'm considered a moderate that leans to the right. I believe Miers would fall into my group. I believe most of America falls into my group. I believe the future of America is moving into my group.

 

So what if Miers supports gay rights? I support gay rights yet theres not a single SOXTALK member that would confuse me with a liberal. Gays should not be economically disadvantaged because of their sexual behavior. No group should.

 

Does that mean I am in favor of gay marriage? No. Of course not. Marriage is much more so a cultural distinction in our lives than a government one. If the cultural distinction should move in that direction than the time will be right to propose it. But that is clearly not the case today. As such the government distinction should be weakened over time seeing that the government distinction NEVER should have arisen in the first place.

 

Likewise on abortion. Again RvW. It's done! It's over! It's history! The abortion issues on the table for the USSC are whether the court is going to uphold the Partial Birth Abortion Ban Law & whether the court will uphold the Violence Against Mothers Act. These are both congressional acts. They are not acts of legislating from the bench. They clearly define & regulate the right to which a woman can seek an abortion. So why even bother asking a RvW question?

 

But the media LOVES the left vs right battling in America's government. It makes for good theatre & entertaining journalism. The moderate is rarely heard. When they try to speak the media is quick to try & categorize them as either Left or Right. The middle is boring I guess.

Edited October 9, 200520 yr by JUGGERNAUT

In the predominantly leftist community known as SOXTALK I'm considered to be a member of the right wing. Yet in the greater whole of America I'm considered a moderate that leans to the right.

 

You're not being ostracized, stop whining.

You complain about the right vs. left sentiment but yet you take part in all of it?

Does that mean I am in favor of gay marriage?  No.  Of course not. 

 

Then you don't support equal rights for equal people who happen to be gay.

 

You Don't Support Gay Rights.

Then you don't support equal rights for equal people who happen to be gay.

 

You Don't Support Gay Rights.

Details, details. . .

Then you don't support equal rights for equal people who happen to be gay.

 

You Don't Support Gay Rights.

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Marriage is a natural union between a man & a woman for the main purpose of raising a family. Sure there are exceptions amongst heterosexuals today but they are not so great in numbers that they should change the general rule. Of course committed sexual unions amongst homosexuals are so scarce that it's preposterous to even suggest a change in the general rule for that reason alone.

 

Put another way a gay's right to life, liberty, & pursuit of happiness should not redefine our predominant culture.

Put another way a gay's right to life, liberty, & pursuit of happiness should not redefine our predominant culture.

 

 

This statement bothers me.

This statement bothers me.

 

Ditto.

 

If you take what he stated to the fullest extreme, women shouldn't be allowed to vote, work outside the home or wear pants amongst other things. Also, African-Americans wouldn't be able to vote, own land, etc.

 

Just because a "majority" might believe something, it doesn't necessarily make it right, it just makes it, well, a majority held opinion.

Ditto.

 

If you take what he stated to the fullest extreme, women shouldn't be allowed to vote, work outside the home or wear pants amongst other things.  Also, African-Americans wouldn't be able to vote, own land, etc.

 

Just because a "majority" might believe something, it doesn't necessarily make it right, it just makes it, well, a majority held opinion.

 

Does that mean if a majority vote of Soxtalk posters was held, and they felt that Juggernaut should not post here, that Juggernaut would quit posting here? After all that would be democracy at its finest.

Of course committed sexual unions amongst homosexuals are so scarce that it's preposterous to even suggest a change in the general rule for that reason alone.

 

The only thing here that's preposterous is you. *self-censor, self-censor*