rafacosta Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 I prefer a Brad Fullmer instead Mark Cubsgrace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastime Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 For the record, I'm all in favor of a youth movement. But it will be ugly for a year or two. We will have Buehrle (back to his usual self), Loaiza, Garland, and Wright for sure in the rotation. I will assume that Rauch will be the #5 guy. I wish we could keep Bartolo Colon (Carlos Castillo II), but he's our Trump card in a trade in a month, UNLESS THE SOX GO ON A WINNING STREAK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxRule Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 Grace is washed up. He is done after this year, if the DBacks don't release him before hand. Oh, I know. I guess I should have used green for that. Is that the color you guys use to convey sarcasm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 Oh, I know. I guess I should have used green for that. Is that the color you guys use to convey sarcasm? Yeah sorry man, green is sarcasm. Didn't even think that you didn't know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted June 10, 2003 Author Share Posted June 10, 2003 I would rather have Mike Cameron on this team right now than freaking crybaby, whiny, hypocrite named paulie. f*** YOU PAULIE......YOU SON OF A b****. NEXT TIME THINK TWICE BEFORE TALKING ABOUT ONE OF THE GREATEST HITTERS IN BASEBALL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 I would rather have Mike Cameron on this team right now than freaking crybaby, whiny, hypocrite named paulie. f*** YOU PAULIE......YOU SON OF A b****. NEXT TIME THINK TWICE BEFORE TALKING ABOUT ONE OF THE GREATEST HITTERS IN BASEBALL. I think just about all of us would. cameron plays a nice CF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 I would rather have Mike Cameron on this team right now than freaking crybaby, whiny, hypocrite named paulie. f*** YOU PAULIE......YOU SON OF A b****. NEXT TIME THINK TWICE BEFORE TALKING ABOUT ONE OF THE GREATEST HITTERS IN BASEBALL. Nice signature, what are you like two years old? Like I said before when you can't beat em, smother em with 4 letter words. Way to prove that you can hold an intelligent conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted June 10, 2003 Author Share Posted June 10, 2003 I would rather have Mike Cameron on this team right now than freaking crybaby, whiny, hypocrite named paulie. f*** YOU PAULIE......YOU SON OF A b****. NEXT TIME THINK TWICE BEFORE TALKING ABOUT ONE OF THE GREATEST HITTERS IN BASEBALL. Nice signature, what are you like two years old? Like I said before when you can't beat em, smother em with 4 letter words. Way to prove that you can hold an intelligent conversation. Gimme a break SS2003 And it was not a signature, just the FACTS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 I just think it's weak when ANYONE downs a teammate to the media. I say, NEVER feed the jackals! If you have a problem with a teammate, BE A MAN and confront that teammate. It was weak when PK did it, it's weak when anyone does it. Fact is, PK's quiet right now cuz he lives in a HUGE glass house. Nobody on this team has the right to talk s*** about anyone else right now. They can't even talk s*** about the TIGERS right now, cuz the Tigers have the season edge on them! The team as a whole has underachieved miserably, and they need to turn it around AS A TEAM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxRule Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 NEXT TIME THINK TWICE BEFORE TALKING ABOUT ONE OF THE GREATEST HITTERS IN BASEBALL. When did Paulie say anything about Barry Bonds? Or A-Rod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 When did Paulie say anything about Barry Bonds? Or A-Rod? Please. FT is 7th alltime in OBP. A-rod isnt in the top 10. I would love to see FT call out mr .197 with 12 GIDPs and 15 rbis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted June 11, 2003 Share Posted June 11, 2003 The thing I don't get is everybody seeming to believe that Paulie called out Frank for a lack of performance. If my recollection serves me correctly, Paulie called Frank out because he wasn't acting like a team player. He was b****ing about being benched and was late for stretching (or skipped it) and refused to stay on the bench during a game or something. I don't recall all the details and frankly (no pun intended) I don't think the details matter. Paulie basically said that he and his teammates thought Frank was being selfish and not thinking about how his actions affected the team. I am paraphrasing of course. Personally, I don't see a problem with Paulie being honest about it, but the problem was it happened right at the All-Star break where the media is magnified. Yes, PK should have confronted Frank, and maybe he did. I don't know that for sure. If you have a problem with PK doing what he did, then I think that is fair. I personally do think it was as big of an issue as it was blown up to be, but I respect anyone who disagrees and think PK should have kept his mouth shut. I just think people are making it sound like PK was on a witch hunt or in a power struggle, and I didn't see it that way. I think he was just honest about how he felt Frank was acting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted June 11, 2003 Share Posted June 11, 2003 The thing I don't get is everybody seeming to believe that Paulie called out Frank for a lack of performance. If my recollection serves me correctly, Paulie called Frank out because he wasn't acting like a team player. He was b****ing about being benched and was late for stretching (or skipped it) and refused to stay on the bench during a game or something. I don't recall all the details and frankly (no pun intended) I don't think the details matter. Paulie basically said that he and his teammates thought Frank was being selfish and not thinking about how his actions affected the team. I am paraphrasing of course. Personally, I don't see a problem with Paulie being honest about it, but the problem was it happened right at the All-Star break where the media is magnified. Yes, PK should have confronted Frank, and maybe he did. I don't know that for sure. If you have a problem with PK doing what he did, then I think that is fair. I personally do think it was as big of an issue as it was blown up to be, but I respect anyone who disagrees and think PK should have kept his mouth shut. I just think people are making it sound like PK was on a witch hunt or in a power struggle, and I didn't see it that way. I think he was just honest about how he felt Frank was acting. Exactly, this whole thread is totally unfair because PKcalled out Frank for refusing to sit in the dugout at times and showing up late for team streching, etc. It had nothing to do with his on the field performance. It was Frank's lack of desire to be a team player, not what he was doing on the field. Frank wasn't being a leader in the clubhouse while he was behaving like this and PK had seen enough. Therefore, this whole argument has no validity whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 11, 2003 Share Posted June 11, 2003 And the thing is, no one has been able to argue any of the points for Frank in this thread. Just a bunch of amatuer inflamatory statements. Pretty lame stuff really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 11, 2003 Share Posted June 11, 2003 PK wasn't whining, he sucks right now, and Thomas is ripping the cover off the ball. PK should not be bashed for calling out Thomas last year, he was doing the right thing by calling him out for being a s*** teammate and showing up late for a game and he did not call him out for playing s***ty, PK is overpaid, moreso then anyone on the team....his past performances are worth probably about $5 mill tops. You can never predict something like this happening though. I think I summed it all up from what I can tell, IMO. If you want me to go into more detail, just let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted June 11, 2003 Author Share Posted June 11, 2003 When did Paulie say anything about Barry Bonds? Or A-Rod? You obviously have no clue if you do not think Frank is one of the greatest hitters in baseball....all time ARod and Bonds are great too....but I said "one of the...." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted June 11, 2003 Share Posted June 11, 2003 The only thing that Paulie screwed up with last year was saying to the media. When you say say he should have confronted Frank man to man, you are right. However, Paulie was man enough to admit, in the press, that he made a mistake. Someone should have gotten on Frank's ass last year, considering the way he was acting. That's been a big problem with the Cubs all these years. No one would say s*** to Sosa. I'm glad we have some guys who will stand up for the team as whole, over any individual. And yes, Paulie has to keep his mouth shut this year. He is in no position to be calling out anyone. But, I believe he knows that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafacosta Posted June 11, 2003 Share Posted June 11, 2003 PK made a big mistake when he went to the media and started point fingers in Frank. If he was a teammate and a good frien of Frank, he would get at him and talk to him about the situation. If we dont had that confrontation last year, PK probably would be talking s*** right now and complainting about being benched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted June 11, 2003 Share Posted June 11, 2003 Sad when a couple of millionaires can't get along. See, money doesn't buy happiness. Shut up and play, if you can't get along with your co-workers find a new career. Take care of your own s*** and it will all work out. Delicate psychy my ass. The boss says stretch you stretch. The boss says take a couple days off and cheer you take a couple days off and cheer. Let these guys get real jobs for a while and that will bring team harmony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted June 11, 2003 Share Posted June 11, 2003 The only thing that Paulie screwed up with last year was saying to the media. When you say say he should have confronted Frank man to man, you are right. However, Paulie was man enough to admit, in the press, that he made a mistake. Someone should have gotten on Frank's ass last year, considering the way he was acting. That's been a big problem with the Cubs all these years. No one would say s*** to Sosa. I'm glad we have some guys who will stand up for the team as whole, over any individual. And yes, Paulie has to keep his mouth shut this year. He is in no position to be calling out anyone. But, I believe he knows that. frank is actually one of those type of guys who will stand up for guys in the clubhouse.. just ask crede how frank handled dumbass jimenez when he started shooting off his mouth to the youngster about how he cant hit as well as he could........frank stepped in and with lee behind him shut jimenez up really quick.......... i dont have anything against frank.... he can whine, complain or whatever as long as he keeps doing his job on the field thats all i care about....paulie on the other hand has not performed and should keep his mouth shut as hes been doing lately....... in stead of them bashing on eachother they should be helping eachother for the teams sake...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 11, 2003 Share Posted June 11, 2003 I don't get this thread anymore. This is all old news. This has all been handled back last year and in spring training... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTC2784 Posted June 11, 2003 Share Posted June 11, 2003 I don't get this thread anymore. This is all old news. This has all been handled back last year and in spring training... And, may I add, the Trib did a good enough of a job covering this matter for me, so it's all definitely old news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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