its time to look forward to next year.

 

1st. get rid of the entire bulpen except for jenks, thornton, and macdogal.

 

2nd. get rid of thome, mackowiak, uribe, and podsenik.

 

3rd. get rid of garcia and insert mccarthy in the rotation. (i know garcia pitched great last time out)

4th. Get rid of you

Edited September 16, 200619 yr by JDsDirtySox

I've been skeptical of our playoff chances for several weeks. It's been apparent to anyone closing monitoring this team they're too inconsistent as a unit to sustain a winning streak.

 

When the days began winding down, our problems were still obvious on the field (and Guillens head), it became obvious this team wasn't going anywhere in October.

 

Of the suggestions you noted, the one I'd object to -- because it's unlikely -- is trading Thome. Who can we expect to replace his production?

Edited September 16, 200619 yr by Flash Tizzle

The season's not over. Do I think we'll make the playoffs? no. But we are only 2 behind Minny and 4 behind Detroit with three games against each. We will probably be at home in October, but I'm not giving up yet.

It really is over. They're still playing at the same level they've been playing at since the end of June. They're just not going to put it together. They simply won't make the playoffs.

It really is over. They're still playing at the same level they've been playing at since the end of June. They're just not going to put it together. They simply won't make the playoffs.

 

I can't take these pessimistic posts anymore. What's wrong with you? ARE YOU IN OR OUT!!!!??

I've been skepticle of our playoff chances for several weeks. It's been apparent to anyone closing monitoring this team they're too inconsistent as a unit to sustain a winning streak.

 

When the days began winding down, our problems were still obvious on the field (and Guillens head), it became obvious this team wasn't going anywhere in October.

 

Of the suggestions you noted, the one I'd object to -- because it's unlikely -- is trading Thome. Who can we expect to replace his production?

 

Sweeney to RF, Dye as the DH

 

The season's not over. Do I think we'll make the playoffs? no. But we are only 2 behind Minny and 4 behind Detroit with three games against each. We will probably be at home in October, but I'm not giving up yet.

 

We're 2.5 and 4.5 back of Twins and Tigers repectively...

Edited September 16, 200619 yr by korntownballa

The season was over when they lost 2 of 3 vs KC and BOS a couple of weeks ago. That was the prime chance to make ground on MIN and DET and instead the Sox lost ground.

 

They still have a mathematical shot, but physically and mentally, they are done.

If we miss the playoffs, do you think Ozzie gets the ax for everything that's happened this year??

Sweeney to RF, Dye as the DH

We're 2.5 and 4.5 back of Tigers and Twins repectively...

 

That would be an insane downgrade in our offensive productivity. I believe our pitching will improve with McCarthy, but not to the point where we can replace Thome with Ryan freaking Sweeney.

I have to agree w/ an article Mariotti wrote a while back when we had Soriano for McCarthy. Ken Williams said the goal was to win this year. And if McCarthy is so valuable, WHY ISN'T HE IN THE ROTATION!!!?? Join my group!!

Edited September 16, 200619 yr by Cuck the Fubs

That would be an insane downgrade in our offensive productivity. I believe our pitching will improve with McCarthy, but not to the point where we can replace Thome with Ryan freaking Sweeney.

 

 

i wish we had frank thomas for this year and the future... just imagine him hitting his 500th in sox uni... KW is dumb

If we miss the playoffs, do you think Ozzie gets the ax for everything that's happened this year??

No, they will let him finish his contract. However, he may hang it up himself.

Sweeney to RF, Dye as the DH

 

If you're gonna do that, you may as well just blow up the whole f***ing team...which isn't going to happen

i wish we had frank thomas for this year and the future... just imagine him hitting his 500th in sox uni... KW is dumb

I don't think he's the idiot. Thomas got off to a slow start, and was injured for some time. We'd be out of it, if Thome didn't do what he did in April and May

Smart. Put McCarthy into the rotation with 16 games left. Who is he going to replace?

I don't know. Maybe piggyback him w/ one of the starters

You don't know......

Sweet group.

This move should've been made a long time ago, and it should've been Vazquez. Now, I'd say maybe Buerhle or Jose.

Sweeney to RF, Dye as the DH

We're 2.5 and 4.5 back of Twins and Tigers repectively...

 

I was talking at the begining of the day.

 

If we miss the playoffs, do you think Ozzie gets the ax for everything that's happened this year??

 

No

 

Ozzie bought himself a grace period with the championship. Unless he steps down, he's here at least another year whether we like it or not. Plus he's Jerry's guy.

If we miss the playoffs, do you think Ozzie gets the ax for everything that's happened this year??

Not even a chance. Only the people on this site blame every pitch on Ozzie.

Edited September 16, 200619 yr by RockRaines

This move should've been made a long time ago, and it should've been Vazquez. Now, I'd say maybe Buerhle or Jose.

 

You would have jumped to conclusions after 2 bad months of pitching to move McCarthy into the rotation for Vazquez. How much worse off would the Sox have been if they'd listened to you?

 

There's a reason the rotation is what it is.

 

McCarthy isn't stretched out enough to start right now anyways, so it would be pointless to try and make him into a starter this late in the season.

You would have jumped to conclusions after 2 bad months of pitching to move McCarthy into the rotation for Vazquez. How much worse off would the Sox have been if they'd listened to you?

 

There's a reason the rotation is what it is.

 

McCarthy isn't stretched out enough to start right now anyways, so it would be pointless to try and make him into a starter this late in the season.

Well it was bad managing regardless. When he wasn't stretched out, he should have been piggybacked w/ Vazquez until he was, and even if B-Mac tanks this year, it's progress. He's got more upside than Vazquez. I'd rather tank w/ a kid, than w/ dead weight. If you're going to blow the season, you might as well cut your losses and get him some work heading into 2007.

Well it was bad managing regardless. When he wasn't stretched out, he should have been piggybacked w/ Vazquez until he was, and even if B-Mac tanks this year, it's progress. He's got more upside than Vazquez. I'd rather tank w/ a kid, than w/ dead weight. If you're going to blow the season, you might as well cut your losses and get him some work heading into 2007.

 

Got more upside than Vazquez my ass. The only thing he has on Vazquez is age.

 

Vazquez has experience and he's got hella ridiculous stuff.

 

McCarthy's gonna be good, but his stuff does not even compare to Vazquez's.

Long time lurker, rarely do I post, but I just wanted to add a bump to this thread to say, "It's Ova."

Not even a chance. Only the people on this site blame every pitch on Ozzie.

 

I think there's about to be an explosion in the media criticizing Ozzie's managing.

This team is done. We have made every B-level pitcher look like Walter Johnson. AND, we made truly awful pitchers (Carlos Silve and this year's Barry Zito) beat us.

 

This team has no balls.

 

Brandon McCarthy...sucks.

Boone Logan...REALLY sucks

Jim Thome (in the 3nd half)...sucks

Rpn Machowial (with the bases loaded)...sucks

Sandy Alomar...sucks

The manager that keeps running them out there...sucks

 

One more thing, the Jermaine Dye for MVP thing was over about 10 minutes after it started.