Cerbaho-WG Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 We call it 18.4 in Europe thankyouverymuch. Egbert got the start today for the Barons and received a ND. Pretty bad outing: 6 IP 4 H 1 ER 1 BB 2 SO 1:1 GB:FB ratio Bum. Collaro went 3-4, furthering evidence that he may indeed know how to hit. Taking a walk is another issue. http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/st...monaax_biraax_1 -- The remaining games of the day: Charlotte (Haeger) vs. Ottawa W-S beat Myrtle Beach, Cunningham goes 2-4. McCullouch with a s***ty start http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/st...wswafa_myrafa_1 Kanny loses 1-0 with Zazueta taking the loss. De Los Santos strikes out 6 over three. http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/st...crdafx_kanafx_1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 Charlotte lost 7-4. Owens 2-5. Sweeney 2-3. Rogo 1-3, HR. Haeger destroyed. Box Score Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan79 Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 Did Honel have his second start yet for B Ham? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB2ZZ Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 Why dog Collaro for "not taking walks" when he is tearing the cover off the ball? Leads the league in TB and RBI, HR and 2 doubles yesterday, 7 RBI in the last two games. He has more walks than HR, which is usually not the case and he is ONLY hitting 353. Very strange...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 QUOTE(danman31 @ Apr 19, 2007 -> 12:11 AM) Charlotte lost 7-4. Owens 2-5. Sweeney 2-3. Rogo 1-3, HR. Haeger destroyed. Box Score So was that the infamous Fabio Castro that pitched against us last night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Apr 19, 2007 -> 01:29 PM) So was that the infamous Fabio Castro that pitched against us last night? Yes sir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 I found this file photo of Egbert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 QUOTE(BB2ZZ @ Apr 19, 2007 -> 06:08 AM) Why dog Collaro for "not taking walks" when he is tearing the cover off the ball? Because even hitting as he is now in the Southern League, he doesn't project to be a servicable major league hitter with his plate discipline. It's one thing if you don't walk and put everything in play. You can succeed with that approach. You can even succeed at the big league level if you strike out almost 200 times a year. But you can't succeed at the big league level by swinging hard at everything, striking out as much as Collaro, and refusing to lay off breaking balls out of the zone. There is the slimmest of hopes that Collaro might be a useful prospect, but it isn't tied to his batting average, power, or defense. It will be determined by his ability to drastically improve his K/BB ratio. He entered this season with a lifetime 6/1 K/BB ratio. When guys like Brian Anderson (2/1) and Josh Fields (2.75/1) figure to struggle at the big league level, Collaro at 6/1 doesn't stand a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB2ZZ Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Apr 19, 2007 -> 04:28 PM) Because even hitting as he is now in the Southern League, he doesn't project to be a servicable major league hitter with his plate discipline. It's one thing if you don't walk and put everything in play. You can succeed with that approach. You can even succeed at the big league level if you strike out almost 200 times a year. But you can't succeed at the big league level by swinging hard at everything, striking out as much as Collaro, and refusing to lay off breaking balls out of the zone. There is the slimmest of hopes that Collaro might be a useful prospect, but it isn't tied to his batting average, power, or defense. It will be determined by his ability to drastically improve his K/BB ratio. He entered this season with a lifetime 6/1 K/BB ratio. When guys like Brian Anderson (2/1) and Josh Fields (2.75/1) figure to struggle at the big league level, Collaro at 6/1 doesn't stand a chance. Is plate discipline genetic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 QUOTE(BB2ZZ @ Apr 19, 2007 -> 08:38 PM) Is plate discipline genetic? All the Boone's walked around 40-50 times a year while they were in the majors except Ray, who walked 72 times a year. He was the best hitter of them all. Both Griffey's walked at above average clips, with Jr. walking more; he's the better hitter. Both Bobby and Barry Bonds walked at extremely proficient rates (though some will question Barry). Barry's walked more; he's the better hitter. Barry's cousin, Reggie Jackson, walked 79 times a year. He also hit 563 homers. Gary Matthews I and II walked at above average rates, with Sr. walking more; he was the better hitter. None of the first generation Alou's walked for s***, with Felipe walking the most per 162 (at 33 times a year). However, Moises has averaged 62 walks a season throughout his career. Guess who the best hitter was? Neither Sandy Alomar Jr. and Sr. walked much at all, about 25 to 30 times a year. Robbie Alomar walked 70 times a year. He was a much better hitter than either. The Bell's walked in the 44 to 58 range throughout the course of their careers. Unsurprisingly, the best hitter, Buddy Bell, was the one who walked the most out of the 3. Is there a pattern developing yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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