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Bush's War

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i did. very interesting to see the inside workings of the office.

 

imo the piece made Bush, Tenet and Powell to seem better than I originally expected, with Cheney, Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld made out to be the idiots of the group.

QUOTE(jasonxctf @ Mar 25, 2008 -> 09:44 AM)
i did. very interesting to see the inside workings of the office.

 

imo the piece made Bush, Tenet and Powell to seem better than I originally expected, with Cheney, Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld made out to be the idiots of the group.

 

I didn't watch it, but I'm not surprised they were made out to be the idiots of the group. If Bush could have a redo, I would think, or at least hope he wouldn't put some of his dad's cabinat into his administration.

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Mar 25, 2008 -> 08:54 AM)
I didn't watch it, but I'm not surprised they were made out to be the idiots of the group. If Bush could have a redo, I would think, or at least hope he wouldn't put some of his dad's cabinat into his administration.

Why is it that people constantly let Mr. Bush off the hook. "Oh, it was just Cheney and Rumsfeld, if Bush had it to do over again he'd know better". The dude still to this day defends the Iraq war as practically the greatest decision he ever made, at every opportunity to pull back he chooses to escalate the conflict, I haven't seen a shred of evidence that would convince me that if Bush had it to do over again, he'd be more open, more practical, or more dovish. He got the war he wanted with the people he wanted leading it.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Mar 25, 2008 -> 09:58 AM)
Why is it that people constantly let Mr. Bush off the hook. "Oh, it was just Cheney and Rumsfeld, if Bush had it to do over again he'd know better". The dude still to this day defends the Iraq war as practically the greatest decision he ever made, at every opportunity to pull back he chooses to escalate the conflict, I haven't seen a shred of evidence that would convince me that if Bush had it to do over again, he'd be more open, more practical, or more dovish. He got the war he wanted with the people he wanted leading it.

 

Agreed.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Mar 25, 2008 -> 10:58 AM)
Why is it that people constantly let Mr. Bush off the hook. "Oh, it was just Cheney and Rumsfeld, if Bush had it to do over again he'd know better". The dude still to this day defends the Iraq war as practically the greatest decision he ever made, at every opportunity to pull back he chooses to escalate the conflict, I haven't seen a shred of evidence that would convince me that if Bush had it to do over again, he'd be more open, more practical, or more dovish. He got the war he wanted with the people he wanted leading it.

 

Honest question here... Has there been a President since Nixon who actually owned up to doing something (big) stupid or illegal?

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QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 25, 2008 -> 11:36 AM)
Honest question here... Has there been a President since Nixon who actually owned up to doing something (big) stupid or illegal?

Depends on what the definition of the word "to" is. ;)

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 25, 2008 -> 10:36 AM)
Honest question here... Has there been a President since Nixon who actually owned up to doing something (big) stupid or illegal?

 

It certainly wasn't Bill Clinton.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 25, 2008 -> 09:36 AM)
Honest question here... Has there been a President since Nixon who actually owned up to doing something (big) stupid or illegal?

President Obama has admitted drug use in his past... :lol:

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 25, 2008 -> 12:36 PM)
Honest question here... Has there been a President since Nixon who actually owned up to doing something (big) stupid or illegal?

 

Jimmy Carter lusted in his heart, does that count?

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Mar 25, 2008 -> 02:08 PM)
Jimmy Carter lusted in his heart, does that count?

 

Jimmy Carter never counts.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Mar 25, 2008 -> 10:58 AM)
Why is it that people constantly let Mr. Bush off the hook. "Oh, it was just Cheney and Rumsfeld, if Bush had it to do over again he'd know better". The dude still to this day defends the Iraq war as practically the greatest decision he ever made, at every opportunity to pull back he chooses to escalate the conflict, I haven't seen a shred of evidence that would convince me that if Bush had it to do over again, he'd be more open, more practical, or more dovish. He got the war he wanted with the people he wanted leading it.

 

I never let Bush off the hook. I just think he has had a horrible cabinet.

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Mar 25, 2008 -> 02:14 PM)
I never let Bush off the hook. I just think he has had a horrible cabinet.

And it's a cabinet he choose. And it's a cabinet he stuck by. It's a cabinet he doesn't fire people from. It's a cabinet where Rumsfeld tried to resign repeatedly and Bush wouldn't let him.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Mar 25, 2008 -> 04:21 PM)
And it's a cabinet he choose. And it's a cabinet he stuck by. It's a cabinet he doesn't fire people from. It's a cabinet where Rumsfeld tried to resign repeatedly and Bush wouldn't let him.

 

Which is why I never let him off the hook, but according to liberal UNI professors, Bush forced Powell out of his cabinet because Powell didn't agree with his plot at taking over the middle east.

Jesus Christ. I've been pissed off by a few things already in this one...but Richard Armitage saying "Oops" to the whole no WMD thing...yeesh.

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