April 30, 200817 yr When you have Toby Hall coming up next, and one of the best throwing outfields in the history of the game....don't bunt to give up the first out to get the runner into 2nd base. You're still going to need two more hits in all likelihood, considering how weak Toby is.
April 30, 200817 yr QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Apr 30, 2008 -> 01:58 PM) I can't believe our offense is this bad. This team stopped hitting after the Boston series of 06. The team didnt hit at all last year, and now this year a lot of the same. The OBP and the Runs scored were great. But eventually the advance scouts tell their team, just pitch to them. Dont walk them, and you will outscore them. This is where we are. I have never seen large amounts of an offense shut down like this.
April 30, 200817 yr The only person I can see who's expendable is Dye. He needs to be traded. This team needs some speed ASAP. 1. Owens LF 2. Swish CF 3. Thome DH 4. Konerko 1B 5. AJ C 6. Quentin RF 7. Crede 3B 8. OC SS 9. Uribe 2B Lets get this lineup in there.
April 30, 200817 yr QUOTE (SoxWS05 @ Apr 30, 2008 -> 02:06 PM) The only person I can see who's expendable is Dye. He needs to be traded. This team needs some speed ASAP. 1. Owens LF 2. Swish CF 3. Thome DH 4. Konerko 1B 5. AJ C 6. Quentin RF 7. Crede 3B 8. OC SS 9. Uribe 2B Lets get this lineup in there. What would speed have done the last two games? Dye looks awful, Uribe is below the mendoza line and Swish as much as he is an OBP machine, needs to hit in the middle of the lineup. Owens isnt going to fix our offense no matter what you think, he's not the answer. And for your lineup, you sure as s*** wouldnt play swish in CF if Owens is in there. Edited April 30, 200817 yr by RockRaines
April 30, 200817 yr QUOTE (SoxWS05 @ Apr 30, 2008 -> 03:06 PM) The only person I can see who's expendable is Dye. He needs to be traded. This team needs some speed ASAP. 1. Owens LF 2. Swish CF 3. Thome DH 4. Konerko 1B 5. AJ C 6. Quentin RF 7. Crede 3B 8. OC SS 9. Uribe 2B Lets get this lineup in there. Owens as your leadoff guy for the year?????, welcome to your 4th place Chicago Whitesox.
April 30, 200817 yr QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Apr 30, 2008 -> 02:11 PM) Owens as your leadoff guy for the year?????, welcome to your 4th place Chicago Whitesox. but what about SPEED!!!!!! The team was hitting the ball ok to all fields to begin the season, now seem to be lift and pull again. This day off couldnt come at a better time.
April 30, 200817 yr Owens as your leadoff guy for the year?????, welcome to your 4th place Chicago Whitesox. Well they're headed there fast now.
April 30, 200817 yr QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 30, 2008 -> 03:13 PM) The team was hitting the ball ok to all fields to begin the season, now seem to be lift and pull again. This day off couldnt come at a better time. Thank you. Some reason and logic.
April 30, 200817 yr QUOTE (SoxWS05 @ Apr 30, 2008 -> 02:14 PM) Well they're headed there fast now. How so? Do you even look at the schedule, how many games they've played what their record is? I guess the ol slap hitting speedster is what this team needs. I bet everyone on here will enjoy his sub .300 OBP vs LHP when he gets here, im sure all will be ignored as long as he runs out the groundouts.
April 30, 200817 yr but what about SPEED!!!!!! The team was hitting the ball ok to all fields to begin the season, now seem to be lift and pull again. This day off couldnt come at a better time. Why do you think we've had so many players left on base? I'll tell you. Nobody can run. Station-station base running loses games like todays, yesterdays and Monday's.
April 30, 200817 yr QUOTE (SoxWS05 @ Apr 30, 2008 -> 02:17 PM) Why do you think we've had so many players left on base? I'll tell you. Nobody can run. Station-station base running loses games like todays, yesterdays and Monday's. So if they could steal bases we wouldnt have flown or struck out? How about the speedy Twins? How many did THEY leave on base today?
April 30, 200817 yr QUOTE (SoxWS05 @ Apr 30, 2008 -> 02:17 PM) Why do you think we've had so many players left on base? I'll tell you. Nobody can run. Station-station base running loses games like todays, yesterdays and Monday's. No, its because once they get a walk and a hit, they GIDP or pop up weakly in the infield. Having one fast guy at the top of the lineup wouldn't make a bit of difference.
April 30, 200817 yr No, its because once they get a walk and a hit, they GIDP or pop up weakly in the infield. Having one fast guy at the top of the lineup wouldn't make a bit of difference. You're probably right about that, but taking one really slow guy out of the middle of the lineup and replacing him with decent speed will make a difference. If Jermaine was not in the lineup today or yesterday, we win.
April 30, 200817 yr QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 30, 2008 -> 03:19 PM) So if they could steal bases we wouldnt have flown or struck out? How about the speedy Twins? How many did THEY leave on base today? That doesnt back your great OPS we have.
April 30, 200817 yr QUOTE (SoxWS05 @ Apr 30, 2008 -> 03:27 PM) You're probably right about that, but taking one really slow guy out of the middle of the lineup and replacing him with decent speed will make a difference. If Jermaine was not in the lineup today or yesterday, we win. Because he cant hit, not because he's not fast. You dont get on first base by winning a sprinting contest.
April 30, 200817 yr Our ss's lack of hitting is growing tiresome. The Sox can't get a clutch hit to save their lives. As expected we just gave away today's game. Masset was nothing. Our ss needs to bat ninth. Maybe we should go back to the days of Pudge Fisk and bat AJP second. Didn't Pudge bat second for a while there? Like somebody said in a recent post. Our only wins have been dramatic pull it out of our asses late. Our losses have been frustrating. If this keeps up, the new clubhouse attitude (Swish, Cabrera) won't mean s***.
April 30, 200817 yr QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 30, 2008 -> 03:29 PM) Because he cant hit, not because he's not fast. You dont get on first base by winning a sprinting contest. Really?
April 30, 200817 yr Bottom line their number 3 guy got the key hit, even though he has a lower OPS than our number 3 and 4 guys... how is that possible?
April 30, 200817 yr QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 30, 2008 -> 02:13 PM) but what about SPEED!!!!!! The team was hitting the ball ok to all fields to begin the season, now seem to be lift and pull again. This day off couldnt come at a better time. They just had Friday off. Why do people think an off day is gonna cure all that is wrong with this offense. Edited April 30, 200817 yr by frankie5angels
April 30, 200817 yr QUOTE (frankie5angels @ Apr 30, 2008 -> 03:32 PM) They just had Monday and last Friday off. Why dopeopel think an off day is gonna cure all that is wrong with this offense. I replied in the other thread, so go ahead and take a look at how inaccurate that statement is.
April 30, 200817 yr Because he cant hit, not because he's not fast. You dont get on first base by winning a sprinting contest. Tell that to Carlos Gomez.
April 30, 200817 yr QUOTE (frankie5angels @ Apr 30, 2008 -> 02:32 PM) They just had Monday and last Friday off. Why do people think an off day is gonna cure all that is wrong with this offense. Monday they played for 6 hours in an extra-innings, rainy, 40* game. Friday was rained out and played on Saturday. I'm not sure what you're talking about. Edited April 30, 200817 yr by StrangeSox
April 30, 200817 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 30, 2008 -> 02:30 PM) Our ss's lack of hitting is growing tiresome. The Sox can't get a clutch hit to save their lives. As expected we just gave away today's game. Masset was nothing. Our ss needs to bat ninth. Maybe we should go back to the days of Pudge Fisk and bat AJP second. Didn't Pudge bat second for a while there? Like somebody said in a recent post. Our only wins have been dramatic pull it out of our asses late. Our losses have been frustrating. If this keeps up, the new clubhouse attitude (Swish, Cabrera) won't mean s***. Masset gave up 3 runs in 6 innings, which is pretty much exactly what the team needed from him. He isn't the problem.
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