So, the conspiracy theorist in me thinks that this new terror threat has been designed/manufactured to deflect attention away from the NSA mess while also providing some "ya see, it's for national security!" ammunition.

So, the conspiracy theorist in me thinks that this new terror threat has been designed/manufactured to deflect attention away from the NSA mess while also providing some "ya see, it's for national security!" ammunition.

"NSA Mess"? That's a funny way of putting it.

So...what we really need to get the Republicans on board with dismantling the organized crime system that masquerades as the modern financial industry is to convince them that the people on Wall Street are all Democrats?

 

Hmm....

 

Its either that or tell the Democrats that they aren't Democrats.

Its either that or tell the Democrats that they aren't Democrats.

 

that will be a hard sell, considering they pretty much fund the Democrat party. Obama's biggest donors were wall street bailed out bankers.

Edited August 6, 201312 yr by mr_genius

that will be a hard sell, considering they pretty much fund the Democrat party. Obama's biggest donors were wall street bailed out bankers.

So you're down with tearing the campaign finance system and starting it over so nobody can do that? Ok, someone tell the Republicans that and lets get started

So you're down with tearing the campaign finance system and starting it over so nobody can do that? Ok, someone tell the Republicans that and lets get started

 

Lets do it

So...what we really need to get the Republicans on board with dismantling the organized crime system that masquerades as the modern financial industry is to convince them that the people on Wall Street are all Democrats?

 

Hmm....

You say that as if Corzine isn't a Democrat. Or as if it is somehow OK because Republicans do bad stuff too.

You say that as if Corzine isn't a Democrat. Or as if it is somehow OK because Republicans do bad stuff too.

Huh?

Ok, I think I know what Balta is getting at. For the most part it's difficult to get Republicans or right-leaning voters to notice institutionalized Wall Street corruption in any meaningful way, most of the time they defend it (perhaps without realizing that's what they're doing, resisting the call to add to or modernize existing regulations because they usually believe the regulations are a problem as an article of faith) or won't accept that the modern GOP since the 80s supports the environment that allows things to like this to happen full stop. But, they notice CORZINE because he was an elected Dem, so now some confirmation bias is in order. Corzine is a Dem, ergo, similar corruption is the fault of Dems, ergo, there is otherwise no problem and nothing needs to be done except get rid of Dems.

Ok, I think I know what Balta is getting at. For the most part it's difficult to get Republicans or right-leaning voters to notice institutionalized Wall Street corruption in any meaningful way, most of the time they defend it (perhaps without realizing that's what they're doing, resisting the call to add to or modernize existing regulations because they usually believe the regulations are a problem as an article of faith) or won't accept that the modern GOP since the 80s supports the environment that allows things to like this to happen full stop. But, they notice CORZINE because he was an elected Dem, so now some confirmation bias is in order. Corzine is a Dem, ergo, similar corruption is the fault of Dems, ergo, there is otherwise no problem and nothing needs to be done except get rid of Dems.

 

Replace every Republican or conservative word in that post, change it to Democrat or liberal, and it's also 100% correct. You're a fool if you don't think Democrats/liberals in power are just as wrong on Wall Street regulations as Republicans. Both parties get their pockets lined by Wall Street. Neither party has any incentive to actually change how things are done.

Ok, I think I know what Balta is getting at. For the most part it's difficult to get Republicans or right-leaning voters to notice institutionalized Wall Street corruption in any meaningful way, most of the time they defend it (perhaps without realizing that's what they're doing, resisting the call to add to or modernize existing regulations because they usually believe the regulations are a problem as an article of faith) or won't accept that the modern GOP since the 80s supports the environment that allows things to like this to happen full stop. But, they notice CORZINE because he was an elected Dem, so now some confirmation bias is in order. Corzine is a Dem, ergo, similar corruption is the fault of Dems, ergo, there is otherwise no problem and nothing needs to be done except get rid of Dems.

With the dollar amount Corzine stole and lost, and the cockiness about it, we would have noticed even if it was Jesus.

With the dollar amount Corzine stole and lost, and the cockiness about it, we would have noticed even if it was Jesus.

He's no anomaly. Just a dickhead fish swimming in an ocean of dickheads. He's right where he belongs. What's the government going to do about this though? Pretty much nothing. Carry on.

Replace every Republican or conservative word in that post, change it to Democrat or liberal, and it's also 100% correct. You're a fool if you don't think Democrats/liberals in power are just as wrong on Wall Street regulations as Republicans. Both parties get their pockets lined by Wall Street. Neither party has any incentive to actually change how things are done.

That's half true. The Democrats are useless for a reason, those are the rules of the game, so if you want to get anywhere in the game, that's the way it has to be played, otherwise you're no factor at all and you're forfeiting. This and the campaign financing system are the biggest reason the government is so useless and over the past 15 or so years, the Dems have made half-assed attempts to do anything about it but it's followed by a Republican freakout about free markets and s*** (as if the American finance system resembled a free market in any way?) which these days is followed by either an unceremonious GOP filibuster or a bill that's so watered down that it either does nothing, or further promotes the problem.

That's half true. The Democrats are useless for a reason, those are the rules of the game, so if you want to get anywhere in the game, that's the way it has to be played, otherwise you're no factor at all and you're forfeiting. This and the campaign financing system are the biggest reason the government is so useless and over the past 15 or so years, the Dems have made half-assed attempts to do anything about it but it's followed by a Republican freakout about free markets and s*** (as if the American finance system resembled a free market in any way?) which these days is followed by either an unceremonious GOP filibuster or a bill that's so watered down that it either does nothing, or further promotes the problem.

 

While we tend to say the government has been useless the past 15 years or so, since that's when we've become old enough to notice, all of these complaints we have today are pretty much the same complaints the previous two generations had, too. And the previous generations said the same exact thing about their usefulness.

 

The older I get, the more I realize that the saying, "The more that things change, the more the stay the same", is absolutely true.

Original quote:

 

“If we don’t deepen our ports all along the Gulf – places like Charleston, S.C., or Savannah, Ga., or Jacksonville, Fla. – if we don’t do that, these ships are going to go someplace else and we’ll lose jobs.”

 

Here’s the quote after a member of the elite Associated Press Obama Gaffe Repair Team sprang into action:

 

“If we don’t deepen our ports all along the Gulf – (and in) places like Charleston, S.C., or Savannah, Ga., or Jacksonville, Fla. – if we don’t do that, these ships are going to go someplace else and we’ll lose jobs.”

 

 

Keep blowing the smartest President of all time.

Blah blah blah, why has the 'Buster gone dead?

Edited August 14, 201312 yr by Jenksismybitch

Blah blah blah, why has the 'Buster gone dead?

What are the libs gonna talk about? Lois Lerner? Eric 'I should be in jail' Holder? Unions abandoning Obamacare? Rodeo clowns being prevented from working for daring to mock her leader? Hillary? Trayvon was it, and even that has died down as the race hustlers have move on to warmer bodies.

Rodeo clowns being prevented from working for daring to mock her leader?

 

fyi for everyone, this refers to a couple of rodeo clowns at the state fair in Missouri dressing in black face and mocking stereotypical big lips on a black person.

fyi for everyone, this refers to a couple of rodeo clowns at the state fair in Missouri dressing in black face and mocking stereotypical big lips on a black person.

 

 

 

wearing a mask is now considered black face? the teeth may be a little exaggerated, like on most masks showing someone smiling, but the pic from that link doesnt appear to have the stereotypical big lips. Nice slant by you though.

Edited August 14, 201312 yr by zenryan

fyi for everyone, this refers to a couple of rodeo clowns at the state fair in Missouri dressing in black face and mocking stereotypical big lips on a black person.

So all those people who came to my door last Halloween in Obama masks were really little racists in black face? Got it. Nice try. The whole thing there just revolves around how it is impossible in the eyes of some to ever criticize this President without it being about race.

These guys were all ageists.

 

Edited August 15, 201312 yr by Jenksismybitch

"why do African Americans vote so heavily against Republicans?!?!"

These guys were all ageists.

 

I like how Reagan looks like he's about to casually pop Bush.

I like how Reagan looks like he's about to casually pop Bush.

 

That's LBJ, but then again all white guys look alike.

That's LBJ, but then again all white guys look alike.

Oh hey you're right. It went Carter then Reagan, so in my head I saw an Old White Guy and assumed H.W.

 

And it's all OLD white guys that look alike.