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Obama Names His VP

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QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 01:58 PM)
Well there is at least one of those in every speech, especially when they are long ones.

veto every beer? ;)

 

Still maybe my favorite presidential speech gaff ever.

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QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 03:00 PM)
veto every beer? ;)

 

Still maybe my favorite presidential speech gaff ever.

No I still think Bush is up there at #1 with the "fool me once" gaffe. That one might never be topped in my lifetime.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 01:02 PM)
No I still think Bush is up there at #1 with the "fool me once" gaffe. That one might never be topped in my lifetime.

Frankly, it's not even close. The only one I'd say goes up there with it is the legendary "We begin bombing in 5 minutes" and "I am not a crook".

QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 08:12 AM)
I am not a huge Biden fan. I think he has some baggage (plagiarism, bankruptcy bill) but by and large he makes sense as a good pick.

 

Can't attack Biden on family values, can't attack Biden on experience, and Biden adds the same level of foreign policy expertise that Dick Cheney did to a Bush nomination in 2000.

I'm probably less of a Biden fan than most people here. Really never liked him and he's never given me reason to. I would honestly have preferred almost anyone else from the field, and I'd really have preferred a surprise choice somehow.

 

I understand why he made the pick. It's the safest choice, it almost guarantees a win in the VP debate because the only thing weaker than the Dem VP selection field is the Republican VP selection field (seriously, Biden vs. Romney/Huckabee/Pawlenty/Jindal?), and at least he is suited to his one constitutional job...being ready to take over in the crisis that hits if the President is incapacitated.

 

But honestly, it's not like I'm voting based on the VP, but if I were, I'd be a little less likely to vote for that ticket today than last night.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 03:10 PM)
Frankly, it's not even close. The only one I'd say goes up there with it is the legendary "We begin bombing in 5 minutes" and "I am not a crook".

Reagan was pretty hilarious. What was funny about that particular statement was the fact that the Soviets actually thought he was serious at first.

Why did Obama feel it necessary to bring up Biden's 'Catholic' faith? Is it because they want to have religion up front in case Romney is picked for the Republicans?

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QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 02:21 PM)
Why did Obama feel it necessary to bring up Biden's 'Catholic' faith? Is it because they want to have religion up front in case Romney is picked for the Republicans?

I think a number of factors:

1) Religious Vote

2) The people that believe Obama is a Muslim

3) Yea, Romney might be part of it.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 04:21 PM)
Why did Obama feel it necessary to bring up Biden's 'Catholic' faith? Is it because they want to have religion up front in case Romney is picked for the Republicans?

It's part of the base that he still hasn't solidified... and he still has to deal with those "Obama is a secret Muslim terrorist" rumors that won't go away.

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QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 02:02 PM)
No I still think Bush is up there at #1 with the "fool me once" gaffe. That one might never be topped in my lifetime.

 

I stand corrected, Bush takes the top 5-10 spots.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 02:02 PM)
No I still think Bush is up there at #1 with the "fool me once" gaffe. That one might never be topped in my lifetime.

 

It'd be great to hear what some of the presidents of the past said like Andrew Jackson. He would've been a riot to hear.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 03:10 PM)
Frankly, it's not even close. The only one I'd say goes up there with it is the legendary "We begin bombing in 5 minutes" and "I am not a crook".

 

Those aren't gaffes. :P

QUOTE (Gregory Pratt @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 12:54 PM)
Those aren't gaffes. :P

"We begin bombing in 5 minutes" certainly was...in the sense that he didn't think the mic was on.

 

"I am not a crook"...well...

Also: why do people believe that McCain is going to bring Romney along? I'd be floored if that happened. It's just not a wise choice in any sense and is therefore highly unlikely to happen.

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QUOTE (Gregory Pratt @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 02:55 PM)
Also: why do people believe that McCain is going to bring Romney along? I'd be floored if that happened. It's just not a wise choice in any sense and is therefore highly unlikely to happen.

Nevada, Colorado, Michigan

 

Oh, and this Republican BS that Obama is using Biden to fill his "Foreign Policy" hole, and Romney is what? Just a monkey? No. Romney is to work the Economy angle.

QUOTE (Gregory Pratt @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 12:55 PM)
Also: why do people believe that McCain is going to bring Romney along? I'd be floored if that happened. It's just not a wise choice in any sense and is therefore highly unlikely to happen.

Who is better from McCain's list is the question? If Obama's list was weak, his is an abject disaster area. The top names are usually Romney, Huckabee, Jindal, Pawlenty, Charlie Crist, and then beyond that it gets even more obscure unless he can talk Petraeus in to rocking it. Tom Ridge is out there, but he's pro-choice. Then there's Holy Joe.

 

McCain's going to run on how important experience is in this race, how we need his skill to deal with times of crisis and how Obama's just an inexperienced (Muslim) celebrity. Who from that list isn't exactly what he's hitting Obama on? Bunch of poorly known governors who you pick to try to pick up a state, and a couple of slightly bigger names who would absolutely piss off the base.

 

Pick a name from McCain's possible list...and picture him having to hold his ground in a debate with Biden when the questions are asked about what in their experience prepares them to take over for the President in the event of a crisis. Romney at least has a solid business background to go along with his governorship. But frankly, there's not a looker in the bunch.

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By the way, it looks like they are going to stick with the BarackObama.com domain based on the new logo merchandise. This is most likely because there are "domain squatters" on the ObamaBiden sites.

 

080823_obama_biden_button.jpg

QUOTE (WilliamTell @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 03:39 PM)
It'd be great to hear what some of the presidents of the past said like Andrew Jackson. He would've been a riot to hear.

 

 

I'd say Andrew Jackson would sound a lot like Bill "The Butcher" Cutting from "Gangs Of New York."

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 02:35 PM)
By the way, it looks like they are going to stick with the BarackObama.com domain based on the new logo merchandise. This is most likely because there are "domain squatters" on the ObamaBiden sites.

 

080823_obama_biden_button.jpg

Hell, as much infrastructure as they've built up at BarackObama.com, from the blogs to the individual pages, wouldn't moving all that stuff seem nearly impossible?

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 04:05 PM)
Hell, as much infrastructure as they've built up at BarackObama.com, from the blogs to the individual pages, wouldn't moving all that stuff seem nearly impossible?

depends on how it is built. Most of that stuff is normally database heavy. It would be a"simple" transition for experts in my opinion. But from a time and money stand point it's just easier to stay home.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 04:05 PM)
Hell, as much infrastructure as they've built up at BarackObama.com, from the blogs to the individual pages, wouldn't moving all that stuff seem nearly impossible?

couldn't you just change the domain name?

QUOTE (BearSox @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 05:47 PM)
couldn't you just change the domain name?

 

si

 

he could redirect the old url to the new one

 

have the new url go to his home index

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 03:07 PM)
Who is better from McCain's list is the question? If Obama's list was weak, his is an abject disaster area. The top names are usually Romney, Huckabee, Jindal, Pawlenty, Charlie Crist, and then beyond that it gets even more obscure unless he can talk Petraeus in to rocking it. Tom Ridge is out there, but he's pro-choice. Then there's Holy Joe.

 

McCain's going to run on how important experience is in this race, how we need his skill to deal with times of crisis and how Obama's just an inexperienced (Muslim) celebrity. Who from that list isn't exactly what he's hitting Obama on? Bunch of poorly known governors who you pick to try to pick up a state, and a couple of slightly bigger names who would absolutely piss off the base.

 

Pick a name from McCain's possible list...and picture him having to hold his ground in a debate with Biden when the questions are asked about what in their experience prepares them to take over for the President in the event of a crisis. Romney at least has a solid business background to go along with his governorship. But frankly, there's not a looker in the bunch.

Absolutely spot on, Balta. And it disgusts me.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 04:47 PM)
couldn't you just change the domain name?

I would simply mirror the site to go to RSO.com. :lol:

 

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 07:13 PM)
Absolutely spot on, Balta. And it disgusts me.

 

you don't think anyone on that list could debate Biden? i must disagree with you there. Biden is a complete doofus

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 07:14 PM)
I would simply mirror the site to go to RSO.com. :lol:

 

The Roanoke Symphony Orchestra would probably appreciate that :lol:

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