November 20, 200817 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 20, 2008 -> 11:58 AM) No Cy Young awards, not getting to 300 wins despite playing for the team spending by far the most money to build a dominant offense over the last decade, only 1 20 win season (this year) on his resume. I think he still misses. It's the hall of fame, not the hall of very good. In name only. It's definitely the hall of very good, judging by a lot of its members. He can definitely get in.
November 20, 200817 yr QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Nov 20, 2008 -> 12:15 PM) In name only. It's definitely the hall of very good, judging by a lot of its members. He can definitely get in. Agreed... he's not a first ballot, but he'll get in.
November 20, 200817 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 20, 2008 -> 10:58 AM) No Cy Young awards, not getting to 300 wins despite playing for the team spending by far the most money to build a dominant offense over the last decade, only 1 20 win season (this year) on his resume. I think he still misses. It's the hall of fame, not the hall of very good. Only 20 other pitchers in major-league history have finished 100 or more games over .500. Sixteen are in the Hall of Fame, and the other four — Roger Clemens, Pedro Martinez, Greg Maddux and Tom Glavine — are not yet eligible.
November 20, 200817 yr I dont know about Mussina, i tend to think he just misses. The way I look at it, is if I were to think about the past 15 years and was asked to name the game's best pitchers, would Mussina come out of my mouth? I dont think it would. As someone said earlier, it's the hall of fame, not the hall of very good
November 20, 200817 yr QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Nov 20, 2008 -> 12:48 PM) I dont know about Mussina, i tend to think he just misses. The way I look at it, is if I were to think about the past 15 years and was asked to name the game's best pitchers, would Mussina come out of my mouth? I dont think it would. As someone said earlier, it's the hall of fame, not the hall of very good And as I said, no, it really isn't.
November 20, 200817 yr QUOTE (bschmaranz @ Nov 20, 2008 -> 12:24 PM) Agreed... he's not a first ballot, but he'll get in. You also have to consider that he is a very well-liked player and that he was a part of the historic Yankees. I think he's definitely going to get in when you consider those things, plus his numbers.
November 20, 200817 yr QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Nov 20, 2008 -> 02:42 PM) You also have to consider that he is a very well-liked player and that he was a part of the historic Yankees. I think he's definitely going to get in when you consider those things, plus his numbers. Plus he went to Stanford and can do the NY Times Sunday Crossword Puzzle.
November 20, 200817 yr Some guy in Newsday wrote an article yesterday or today complaining why Sabathia hadn't signed for the Yankees yet, when they made him the biggest offer. Guess people in New York still haven't realized that money isn't everything, and that they can't always try to buy talent.
November 21, 200817 yr QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 19, 2008 -> 11:27 AM) Burnett will be their next Pavano. That's exactly what I was going to post.
November 21, 200817 yr QUOTE (knightni @ Nov 21, 2008 -> 05:30 AM) That's exactly what I was going to post. I obviously read many, many minds and channeled them all for what can only be described as the most brilliant post in all of Soxtalk history.
November 22, 200817 yr QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 21, 2008 -> 09:24 AM) I obviously read many, many minds and channeled them all for what can only be described as the most brilliant post in all of Soxtalk history. You are 2nd at best.
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