Nice cold-weather read on Jeff Marquez, the pitcher the Sox got from the Yankees for Swisher.

 

He sounds pretty pumped to be changing pinstripes and knows he needs to improve his command.

 

http://www.thereporter.com/ci_11441373?source=most_viewed

probably cause no one else wants him.

You're just a big meany, Shuf.

Kenny wanted him bad so I hope he isn't a dissapointment. I know youngsters, especially pitchers can be a gamble, so here's hoping we have a good one on board.

Dude looks 13

as long as the clock keeps tickin and we don't sign anybody else, he's got a shot to be number 5 starter -- scary as that sounds.

as long as the clock keeps tickin and we don't sign anybody else, he's got a shot to be number 5 starter -- scary as that sounds.

I love how the article on whitesox.com talks about believing in Marquez and Richard because of how Danks and Floyd turned out...

I love how the article on whitesox.com talks about believing in Marquez and Richard because of how Danks and Floyd turned out...

 

Unless things change, that might be our marketing campaign this coming season.

Of course he's thrilled, we're the only team in baseball that believes he can make it as a major league starter.

Well, You Guys Didn't Believe in Carlos, Alexei, Danksy and Gavin...Look What They Did!!!!

 

Great...lovely.

 

To hear KW talk, with Marquez' arsenal replete with multiple "plus" pitches, you wonder how he ever possibly put up that 4.69 ERA last year...yet nobody addressed what happened with his career trajectory last year and why he regressed so far as a prospect with the Yankees in one season (from a Top Ten...8-10 guy...to 21, or something like that, before the trade).

 

Well, the other marketing idea...

 

These Guys Looked REALLY REALLY Good in the Arizona Fall League (KW was so impressed, he traded for them...cue 80's music, like the commercials about electric shavers from the past, he even bought the company)!!!

 

They could put Floyd, Marquez, Cole Armstrong, Flowers, Beckham and Jon/Jordan Danks on the cover, lol.

Edited January 14, 200917 yr by caulfield12

White Sox 2009: 50 Cents

Edited January 14, 200917 yr by R.J.

Or we can have a nice promotional tie-in with the rapper 50 Cent, aka Curtis Jackson.

 

Or maybe we can convince him to change his name to "75 Cents on the Dollar" for this season...plus, as an added bonus, he's usually sporting a White Sox hat anyway.

Edited January 14, 200917 yr by caulfield12

I hate this trade everyday.

I hate this trade everyday.

 

Yep, especially if Yankees get more for Swisher than we did.

Yep, especially if Yankees get more for Swisher than we did.

People are going to have a s***fit if they do. It all goes back to acquiring a LFer when we needed a CFer...

The latest rumor was Mike Cameron for Swisher. Does that sound better than what we got in return?

 

He's a CFer, but would anyone really be happy with Mike Cameron as a return? I'm sure a few would, plus there's the sentimental idea of bringing him back 10 years later, but...he's not an option for leadoff hitter either, which is one of the biggest "issues" hanging over the team at this point.

 

 

Yep, especially if Yankees get more for Swisher than we did.

In the current market, good luck to them is all I'm going to say.

 

They'll trade Nady instead anyways.

The latest rumor was Mike Cameron for Swisher. Does that sound better than what we got in return?

 

He's a CFer, but would anyone really be happy with Mike Cameron as a return? I'm sure a few would, plus there's the sentimental idea of bringing him back 10 years later, but...he's not an option for leadoff hitter either, which is one of the biggest "issues" hanging over the team at this point.

Brian Anderson is basically a little worse hitting (at least at this stage of Cameron's career), younger, and white version of Mike Cameron.

Edited January 15, 200917 yr by BearSox

I hate this trade everyday.

I hate the Sweeney, Gio, and DLS trade more then either.

 

Swisher is a pretty terrible player, and I'm not sad to see him go at all, but I think Sweeney, Gio, and DLS > Betemit, Marquez, and Nunez (was Nunez, right?).

 

While Gio has had his location troubles, he's still got above average stuff and has a higher ceiling then Marquez. Betemit is a solid utility infielder but Sweeney is at least a decent starter. And I don't know much about Nunez, but while DLS did have TJS and is still a while away from the majors, he's got the stuff to be a real good pitcher, whether it be in the bullpen or rotation.

Brian Anderson is basically a little worse hitting (at least at this stage of Cameron's career), younger, and white version of Mike Cameron.

OPS+

Cameron since 2001:

123

109

108

104

114

121

103

110

 

Anderson:

41

65

2

81

 

How is Anderson a "little" worse. Cameron is also better on the basepaths and is still a solid defensive CF. The biggest knock on him would be his $10 million salary which now starting to look like a lot based on the market.

In the article that had the link to it, I read where Marquez has a power chageup to both left and right handed hitters. Does anybody know exactly for sure what a power changeup is. I did some searching, and came up blank.

OPS+

Cameron since 2001:

123

109

108

104

114

121

103

110

 

Anderson:

41

65

2

81

 

How is Anderson a "little" worse. Cameron is also better on the basepaths and is still a solid defensive CF. The biggest knock on him would be his $10 million salary which now starting to look like a lot based on the market.

maybe more then a little, but they still are very similar players.

Dude looks 13

 

 

Better than looking older than his given age.

In the article that had the link to it, I read where Marquez has a power chageup to both left and right handed hitters. Does anybody know exactly for sure what a power changeup is. I did some searching, and came up blank.

 

Perhaps it's a shuuto, and they're just not calling it that as it's a Japanese term? I'm not sure. That part of his scouting report confused me as well.

In the article that had the link to it, I read where Marquez has a power chageup to both left and right handed hitters. Does anybody know exactly for sure what a power changeup is. I did some searching, and came up blank.

 

The best description that I could find is that a power change doesn't "float" up to the plate ala Tom Glavine. So basically it has a good amount of downward movement.