We ration.

 

Let me say that again.

 

We ration.

 

We already ration. We just ration by your income level.

 

We ration.

 

You can't scare people by screaming rationing when those same people have been rationed out for years.

So? Of course the current system does. YASNY.

 

"Everyone's included, while we cut costs". It cannot be. They are going to make rationing of today's standards a pimple of an elephant's ass when they're through.

So? Of course the current system does. YASNY.

 

"Everyone's included, while we cut costs". It cannot be. They are going to make rationing of today's standards a pimple of an elephant's ass when they're through.

Yes it can be. We just have to get the cost structure aimed in the right direction. Right now, it's aimed at: greater bureaucracy, no efficiency, higher expenditures, worse care, and higher profits.

Someone clarify something for me with this health coverage they are talking about. Now its strictly optional and not being forced on us right? Then how is it this is being considered communist or even Nazi like by some people? If it were wouldn't it be more like we are taking away all other choice and this is all you get? Thanks for any useful input.

It's strictly optional until current health insurance companies cannot compete. There will be price ceilings, which becomes the floor for the private companies, and it will not allow them to compete. Anything over that government "price cap" will get subsidized on the government side and will not on the private side. Thus, over a matter of time, it will put them out of business.

 

It's this simple. While our current system is s***ty in some cases, you have your personal liberties intact. The second that switches over and becomes a part of the state, you've lost your ability to choose. You're now mandated by the government what you can and cannot do for your health. That's socialistic at best because the state has control of decisions that you currently have now.

 

You'll get this cry me a river BS about how people can't do this or that currently, but honestly, they could do a lot of things if they so chose.

 

Re: someone saying this is Nazi Germany or "communism", they're full of s*** and an asshole. But it is socialism - where collectively the slippery slope of the state takes control of a hell of decisions that you used to make without government interference.

Oh hey, that guy that got his finger bitten off in that fight outside a townhall the other day? Admitted on Fox News he threw the first punch after the biter called him an "idiot."

 

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/cspanj...inger-bitten-to

 

Healthers are tough guys. Getting in some old man's face, provoking said old man to take a swing, then beating up an old man and biting his finger off is manly. Proves how macho you are.

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Yes it can be. We just have to get the cost structure aimed in the right direction. Right now, it's aimed at: greater bureaucracy, no efficiency, higher expenditures, worse care, and higher profits.

Yea, under the ObamaCare flag, you're sure right. The higher profits part, yea, these evil bastards make 50-60-70-80% profits... shut 'em down! Please. They do no better then most other companies out there, and in fact, many cases, worse.

 

 

Yea, under the ObamaCare flag, you're sure right. The higher profits part, yea, these evil bastards make 50-60-70-80% profits... shut 'em down! Please. They do no better then most other companies out there, and in fact, many cases, worse.

When Bill Clinton tried to reform the Health Care system, the "Medical Loss ratio", the amount of the money you send to an insurance company that they spend on actual medical care, was something like 95%.

 

Today, a company's stock price will be savaged if it touches 80%.

Healthers are tough guys. provoking said old man to take a swing,

 

I thought it was liberals that are always making excuses.

Yes it can be. We just have to get the cost structure aimed in the right direction. Right now, it's aimed at: greater bureaucracy, no efficiency, higher expenditures, worse care, and higher profits.

 

If you switch profits to budgets, you have just described the US government.

I thought it was liberals that are always making excuses.

 

No, you guys are badasses. I'm scared.

No, you guys are badasses. I'm scared.

Just carry your AK-47 around for protection.

Just carry your AK-47 around for protection.

But Barack is going to take away our guns!

 

Just carry your AK-47 around for protection.

 

Good idea.

But Barack is going to take away our guns!

 

The single best advertising campaign in modern firearm marketing. Amazing.

should we cheers for pg. 100?

should we cheers for pg. 100?

Oh. You use the default number of posts per page. Noob

haha, I hate long pages!

haha, I hate long penis!

 

well that too, makes me jealous

Matt Taibbi on the process of the Dems watering down this thing away from everything that might be remotely effective.

Matt Taibbi on the process of the Dems watering down this thing away from everything that might be remotely effective.

You talk about a piece of s*** article full of fear mongering, lies, and half truths... gees.

 

You talk about a piece of s*** article full of fear mongering, lies, and half truths... gees.

 

That's not possible, only neo-cons fear monger, lie and tell half truths. Didn't you get the memo?

"They should be free to make a profit. But they also have to be fair. They also have to be accountable," the president said. "That's what we're talking about — security and stability for folks who have health insurance, help for those who don't, coverage they need at a price they can afford, finally bringing costs under control — that's the reform that's needed."

 

LMAO. He sounds like a freaking used car salesman. PRICE YOU CAN AFFORD. QUALITY YOU CAN COUNT ON. BUY YOUR HEALTHCARE HERE (you stupid f'in Americans who don't know what we do!!).

 

 

LMAO. He sounds like a freaking used car salesman. PRICE YOU CAN AFFORD. QUALITY YOU CAN COUNT ON. BUY YOUR HEALTHCARE HERE (you stupid f'in Americans who don't know what we do!!).

The Republican plan for health care. Prices you can't afford, and health care quality you can't count on. Pretty much sums up the last 16 years or so quite well.

The Republican plan for health care. Prices you can't afford, and health care quality you can't count on. Pretty much sums up the last 16 years or so quite well.

^^^ Fearmongering.

 

^^^ Fearmongering.

Yup. About my life. And a whole lot of others'.