MurcieOne Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 Sox Complete Everett Trade with Rangers By Mark J. Jacobsen July 24, 2003 SoxNet.net (SN Report #579) - On Thursday, the Texas rangers selected their three players out of a pool of eight to complete the trade made on July 1, when the White Sox added outfielder Carl Everett. Anthony Webster, Frankie Francisco and Josh Rupe will all be booking flights to their new teams, as they were the unfortunate casualties of the White Sox pennant race. Webster, 20, was the crown jewel of this trade for Texas. The centerfielder was rated number three in the White Sox system before the start of the year. In 94 games with Kannapolis, Webster was hitting .289 with two home runs, 33 RBIs and 20 stolen bases. Accompanying Webster will be fellow Intimidator Josh Rupe, who was 5-5 with a 3.02 ERA and six saves in 26 games for Class A Kannapolis. Rupe racked up 69 strikeouts in 65 2/3 innings. The Final piece of this trade was Class A Winston-Salem pitcher Frankie Francisco. Francisco, who was acquired for Bobby Howry in last year’s trade with Boston, was putting together his most productive season yet, going 7-3 with a 3.56 ERA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 Wow, KW is really unloading on those minor league closers. I think that's good to see. I know the Rangers picked him from a list, but that's the 3rd minor league closer we've traded this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 Rupe is now a starter. He was moved into the rotation about a month ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 Jason/Mark: If we ranked our prospects yesterday, where would Webster have been? Borchard was ahead of him, but certainly not any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 Does Nanita go to Kannapolis now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 Jason/Mark: If we ranked our prospects yesterday, where would Webster have been? Borchard was ahead of him, but certainly not any more. I can give ya a little peak at where we had those three on the list we made about 4 days ago (Were currently working on writeups and now have to add 3 new players to the list). Webster was 9th Josh Rupe was 14th Frank Francisco was 31st Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 Does Nanita go to Kannapolis now? Would be my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 I can give ya a little peak at where we had those three on the list we made about 4 days ago (Were currently working on writeups and now have to add 3 new players to the list). Webster was 9th Josh Rupe was 14th Frank Francisco was 31st You will get your own goddamn stats for those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 That seems a little steep to me. With Webster going over, I thought the Rangers would only be able to take one more player. I figured Webster and Rupe. Oh well, such is life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mr1drfl Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 francisco isnt that good and rupes ok but websters gonna be good. but we got everett and everett will help us this year so im happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 francisco isnt that good and rupes ok but websters gonna be good. but we got everett and everett will help us this year so im happy How many times combined have you seen Webster, Rupe and Francisco play in person?? Just curious.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted July 25, 2003 Author Share Posted July 25, 2003 francisco isnt that good and rupes ok but websters gonna be good. but we got everett and everett will help us this year so im happy Frankie Francisco was rated to have the best fastball in this organization. So yeah...he must suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 I still don't understand how John Hart convinced the Sox to throw all these blue chip prospects into a pool for selection. I mean, this is still Carl Everett we're talking about. We get Carl Everett for three months. We're not talking Pujols or Helton or Hank Blalock. We are talking Carl Everett. I'm quite sure that they originally asked for Cotts, Honel, and Reed to be put into that pool. Nooooooooo, we said, much too smart for that ploy. But since you can't have those three, we'll include the best of the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 I still don't understand how John Hart convinced the Sox to throw all these blue chip prospects into a pool for selection. I mean, this is still Carl Everett we're talking about. We get Carl Everett for three months. We're not talking Pujols or Helton or Hank Blalock. We are talking Carl Everett. I'm quite sure that they originally asked for Cotts, Honel, and Reed to be put into that pool. Nooooooooo, we said, much too smart for that ploy. But since you can't have those three, we'll include the best of the rest. Jim I'm not quite sure where you stand on the Everett trade. Would you mind clarifying for us please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 Point taken, Rex. I'm done. Sorry for bending everyone's ear, or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 Point taken, Rex. I'm done. Sorry for bending everyone's ear, or whatever. No problem, I am with you on the Everett trade. I didn't like it either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleM23 Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 Frankie Francisco was rated to have the best fastball in this organization. So yeah...he must suck. A fine award he shares with Lorenzo Barcelo... What's he doing now? Driving a dump truck? Prospects are prospects. Who cares? We got 2 talented veterans for nearly squat with no take on payroll (to add more vets). Sounds good to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleM23 Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 No problem, I am with you on the Everett trade. I didn't like it either. Bla bla bla... Win while the pickin's good boys. Webster, Rupe, and Rodriguez will be replaced. Thus is the circle of life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 Frankie Francisco was rated to have the best fastball in this organization. So yeah...he must suck. A fine award he shares with Lorenzo Barcelo... What's he doing now? Driving a dump truck? Prospects are prospects. Who cares? We got 2 talented veterans for nearly squat with no take on payroll (to add more vets). Sounds good to me. :fyou mm23, lorenzo was a great talent, it was too bad that his strength was not enuf for his body. that guy could throw. what ever happen to him and his not making the majors is b/c of injury. go back to wsi where you belong. you piece of s***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 Bla bla bla... Win while the pickin's good boys. Webster, Rupe, and Rodriguez will be replaced. Thus is the circle of life. To clarify......... I don't think that adding Everett was a good move, even if it were for a bag of balls, a case of Old Style and a pack of Vienna Beef hot dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MnSoxFan Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 Man, I cannot disagree with you more Rex. You are much to hard on Everett, and don't go saying his career is 2 monster seasons, he has contributed already for us, some big RBIs. I know we gave up young talent, but you really have a grudge vs Everett. I know the kids we gave up are not the reason you hate the trade, but I guess we will have to wait and see if Everett helps us win. So far I would say he has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorthsox Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 I see your point MSF but in saying it your saying that ARow wouldn't have driven in those runs and I don't think you can honestly say that. Anyhow as I've said before, if Carl can help carry us thru that August schedule then it was a worthwhile trade. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 Man, I cannot disagree with you more Rex. You are much to hard on Everett, and don't go saying his career is 2 monster seasons, he has contributed already for us, some big RBIs. I know we gave up young talent, but you really have a grudge vs Everett. I know the kids we gave up are not the reason you hate the trade, but I guess we will have to wait and see if Everett helps us win. So far I would say he has. MSF, i just don't think that Everett was a necessary piece to the puzzle. Yes, he has contributed, but who is to say that someone else would not have? I may be wrong and if I am then great, that means the Sox are winning and he is contributing. I just think that Alomar was the only necessary move and that the Sox would have won without him. We'll never really know, but you gotta give me some credit for sticking to my guns on this one. I have had the same stance since the night of the trade and will keep it until I have to admit I was wrong, which, when the time is right, I will if necessary. And at least give me a little credit for the bag of balls, case of old style and vienna beef hot dogs line. That was pretty creative, don't ya think? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 Man, I cannot disagree with you more Rex. You are much to hard on Everett, and don't go saying his career is 2 monster seasons, he has contributed already for us, some big RBIs. I know we gave up young talent, but you really have a grudge vs Everett. I know the kids we gave up are not the reason you hate the trade, but I guess we will have to wait and see if Everett helps us win. So far I would say he has. MSF, i just don't think that Everett was a necessary piece to the puzzle. Yes, he has contributed, but who is to say that someone else would not have? I may be wrong and if I am then great, that means the Sox are winning and he is contributing. I just think that Alomar was the only necessary move and that the Sox would have won without him. We'll never really know, but you gotta give me some credit for sticking to my guns on this one. I have had the same stance since the night of the trade and will keep it until I have to admit I was wrong, which, when the time is right, I will if necessary. And at least give me a little credit for the bag of balls, case of old style and vienna beef hot dogs line. That was pretty creative, don't ya think? LOL in discussing this with 2 of the people who in my opinion i respect a lot when it comes to prospects, i feel as i am in dangerous grounds. but still my opinion is with rex on this. the everett trade imo was really one that was not necessary. and like him until i see his contribuation out weigh the lose of the prospect. so what will be the tell tale sign, i don't know but i will say it so, at for me. maybe an obvious major contribuation(offense). btw rex i like the old style bit. i laugh so hard on that one point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 Man, I cannot disagree with you more Rex. You are much to hard on Everett, and don't go saying his career is 2 monster seasons, he has contributed already for us, some big RBIs. I know we gave up young talent, but you really have a grudge vs Everett. I know the kids we gave up are not the reason you hate the trade, but I guess we will have to wait and see if Everett helps us win. So far I would say he has. MSF, i just don't think that Everett was a necessary piece to the puzzle. Yes, he has contributed, but who is to say that someone else would not have? I may be wrong and if I am then great, that means the Sox are winning and he is contributing. I just think that Alomar was the only necessary move and that the Sox would have won without him. We'll never really know, but you gotta give me some credit for sticking to my guns on this one. I have had the same stance since the night of the trade and will keep it until I have to admit I was wrong, which, when the time is right, I will if necessary. And at least give me a little credit for the bag of balls, case of old style and vienna beef hot dogs line. That was pretty creative, don't ya think? LOL in discussing this with 2 of the people who in my opinion i respect a lot when it comes to prospects, i feel as i am in dangerous grounds. but still my opinion is with rex on this. the everett trade imo was really one that was not necessary. and like him until i see his contribuation out weigh the lose of the prospect. so what will be the tell tale sign, i don't know but i will say it so, at for me. maybe an obvious major contribuation(offense). btw rex i like the old style bit. i laugh so hard on that one point. Thanks LDF..... its nice to know that someone gets me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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