July 26, 200322 yr as i keep on saying last yr, what is a player worth today if he hits, 25-30 hrs, 80-90 rbi's. so the same question today for big frank. what is going to happen in the offseason. how bout the love affair with kw and big frank?
July 26, 200322 yr I think they will resign him. There's no way I see him wearing any other uniform. He's said time after time that he wants to finish his career here. He's got some of the swagger back...There's no way he won't be here next year.
July 26, 200322 yr at what cost??????? esp with the way jr is crying cost control I believe this is how it will work with Frank next year...... Frank has the right to renew his option with the Sox at $6 million. If he declines, the Sox have the option to renew his contract at $8 million. If both decline, he is a free agent and can walk away. I know the $6 M and $8 M are the correct totals, but someone correct me if I am wrong on how the options work. Note: The option values for 2005 are $8M for Frank and $11M for the Sox. In 2006, Frank's option is $10M and the Sox option is $12M. Frank can also receive up to $2M in bonuses with a Top 10 MVP finish.
July 26, 200322 yr at what cost??????? esp with the way jr is crying cost control I believe this is how it will work with Frank next year...... Frank has the right to renew his option with the Sox at $6 million. If he declines, the Sox have the option to renew his contract at $8 million. If both decline, he is a free agent and can walk away. I know the $6 M and $8 M are the correct totals, but someone correct me if I am wrong on how the options work. Note: The option values for 2005 are $8M for Frank and $11M for the Sox. In 2006, Frank's option is $10M and the Sox option is $12M. Frank can also receive up to $2M in bonuses with a Top 10 MVP finish. I think Frank still has an escape clause of some sort if the Sox pick up the $8 Million option next year. I just don't remember what has to transpire for him to invoke it.
July 26, 200322 yr at what cost??????? esp with the way jr is crying cost control I believe this is how it will work with Frank next year...... Frank has the right to renew his option with the Sox at $6 million. If he declines, the Sox have the option to renew his contract at $8 million. If both decline, he is a free agent and can walk away. I know the $6 M and $8 M are the correct totals, but someone correct me if I am wrong on how the options work. Note: The option values for 2005 are $8M for Frank and $11M for the Sox. In 2006, Frank's option is $10M and the Sox option is $12M. Frank can also receive up to $2M in bonuses with a Top 10 MVP finish. I think Frank still has an escape clause of some sort if the Sox pick up the $8 Million option next year. I just don't remember what has to transpire for him to invoke it. That is correct. I forgot to include that..... He can void the whole contract after this year...
July 26, 200322 yr at what cost??????? esp with the way jr is crying cost control They have the options...one of them will exercise.
July 26, 200322 yr Author considering frank past financial prob, do you think he will void his contract. i want big frank to retire a sox.
July 26, 200322 yr All I have to say is that I hope Frank is a lifelong White Sox player. I would hate to see him leave and play for another team for a couple of years. I want to see Frank get his 500th homerun in a White Sox uniform.
July 26, 200322 yr Author lacrosse is for wimps. but again at what cost? what happen if he thinks he is worth 12 mil a yr.
July 26, 200322 yr Whoa LDF! lacrosse is a freakin cool sport, as is baseball. Anyway, I've never heard a person say they didn't like lacrosse after they played it.
July 26, 200322 yr Author Whoa LDF! lacrosse is a freakin cool sport, as is baseball. If I didn't like baseball I wouldn't be here. Anyway, I've never heard a person say they didn't like lacrosse after they played it. i thought i could get that in. yeah that is a cool sport, i played some in hs as a class but not in an org situation.
July 26, 200322 yr Lacrosse is really fun. I like Rugby a lot. But my favorite is beach football In regards to Frank I wouldn't be all that shocked to see him gone at the end of the year. The Sox are going to have to move a few guys simply because the positions are all crowded in the wrong area. Why invest so much money in DH/LF/1st baseman when the team could really use a shortstop and 2nd baseman (If Alomar is gone) and they could also use another reliever. Its just not wise to have all your money typed up in that slot, especially if the guy isn't the best out there. If the Sox were smart, they'd unload at least one of Konerko and Thomas. In the past I would of said the Sox would be nuts to move Konerko over Thomas, but Thomas contract is better cause of the mutual options while Konerko has a much more guaranteed deal. I'd hope for Konerko to hit the hell out of the ball the next couple months and then the Sox can deal him for good value and spend his money and what they free up losing some other guys on resigning Colon or signing Ponson and then making a run at Tejada. Tejada may be a bit over-rated but having him at short would be awesome. You get a guy that can produce at a position where production is typically limited. You can find guys to whack the s*** out of the ball for cheap..typically (Someone like Brad Fullmer only makes 2 mill) but to get a shortstop to do that is difficult.
July 26, 200322 yr i thought i could get that in. yeah that is a cool sport, i played some in hs as a class but not in an org situation. Alright, cool! I expected someone to say something about my signature because, afterall, this is a baseball site. At first, I thought you were saying lacrosse sucks, but then I realized that you tried to make it look like I said it.
July 26, 200322 yr Author Lacrosse is really fun. I like Rugby a lot. But my favorite is beach football In regards to Frank I wouldn't be all that shocked to see him gone at the end of the year. The Sox are going to have to move a few guys simply because the positions are all crowded in the wrong area. Why invest so much money in DH/LF/1st baseman when the team could really use a shortstop and 2nd baseman (If Alomar is gone) and they could also use another reliever. Its just not wise to have all your money typed up in that slot, especially if the guy isn't the best out there. If the Sox were smart, they'd unload at least one of Konerko and Thomas. In the past I would of said the Sox would be nuts to move Konerko over Thomas, but Thomas contract is better cause of the mutual options while Konerko has a much more guaranteed deal. I'd hope for Konerko to hit the hell out of the ball the next couple months and then the Sox can deal him for good value and spend his money and what they free up losing some other guys on resigning Colon or signing Ponson and then making a run at Tejada. Tejada may be a bit over-rated but having him at short would be awesome. You get a guy that can produce at a position where production is typically limited. You can find guys to whack the s*** out of the ball for cheap..typically (Someone like Brad Fullmer only makes 2 mill) but to get a shortstop to do that is difficult. they, the sox, need to move clee and his contract. jose vidro is available as a fa. i am wondering if tejada last yr was a freak thing. the cost $$$$ of what fa's that is out there will determine on how to play it. like is any of our of'er prospect ready, meaning reed or brochard? we really don't have anyone for ss or 2b. and if clee is gone, do you really want to trade paulie?
July 26, 200322 yr in no way, shape or form do the Sox need to even consider moving Frank Thomas. He is this franchise, and what alot of Sox fans, me included, identify this team by. He is the reason alot of folks started following this team, and he deserves to finish his career in the Sox #35. CLee or Konerko has to be the one(s) who are moved if anyone.
July 26, 200322 yr Tejada's value might go down a bit, but with so many stupid GM's out there someone will bid against himself and force the price up. I can't see him coming our way next year.
July 26, 200322 yr in no way, shape or form do the Sox need to even consider moving Frank Thomas. He is this franchise, and what alot of Sox fans, me included, identify this team by. He is the reason alot of folks started following this team, and he deserves to finish his career in the Sox #35. CLee or Konerko has to be the one(s) who are moved if anyone. I don't see them moving Frank, but this scenario is possible.. Frank declines his $6m option thinking that the Sox will want to keep him and exercise the option at $8M in effect giving him a $2m raise. But if the Sox don't exercise the option, then Frank is now a free agent. The Sox might not exercise the option for many reasons, like Jason mentioned. I think with Frank bouncing back the way he has, the club and Frank will be amicable about everything and be up front with each other. The Sox could tell them that they can afford Frank at $6M but not $8M and leave it up to him. Lots of possible scenarios.
July 26, 200322 yr Author I don't see them moving Frank, but this scenario is possible.. Frank declines his $6m option thinking that the Sox will want to keep him and exercise the option at $8M in effect giving him a $2m raise. But if the Sox don't exercise the option, then Frank is now a free agent. The Sox might not exercise the option for many reasons, like Jason mentioned. I think with Frank bouncing back the way he has, the club and Frank will be amicable about everything and be up front with each other. The Sox could tell them that they can afford Frank at $6M but not $8M and leave it up to him. Lots of possible scenarios. i hope it is this scenario that is agreed upon. i want big frank to stay...........
July 26, 200322 yr JR loves Frank. And Im glad he does. I think hell do everything he can to get Thomas to stay here...
July 26, 200322 yr Author JR loves Frank. And Im glad he does. I think hell do everything he can to get Thomas to stay here... but will frank want to at a certain price or would he want some sort of a raise? remember vlad is coming out as a fa and if he goes for big $$$$ , frank may want some of that cash as well.
July 26, 200322 yr but will frank want to at a certain price or would he want some sort of a raise? remember vlad is coming out as a fa and if he goes for big $$$$ , frank may want some of that cash as well. Remember it was ARod's contract started his whole "hold out" over the DSC, so to Frank it really does matter what everyone else is making.
July 26, 200322 yr Author but will frank want to at a certain price or would he want some sort of a raise? remember vlad is coming out as a fa and if he goes for big $$$$ , frank may want some of that cash as well. Remember it was ARod's contract started his whole "hold out" over the DSC, so to Frank it really does matter what everyone else is making. yes and he acted up in spring training the same yr he got hurt. do you remember when he refuse to do what jm wanted him to do in an exercise. kw and or jr had to come in and played peace maker.
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