I dont see either of those as advantages, maybe someone else will, but to me not really.

 

A note on the keyboard...the virtual keyboard with the z10 has gotten great reviews.

 

http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/30/3929760/...erry-z10-review

You have to imagine part of the reason people are afraid to get into the BB10 app market is fear of failure, just as it is with the Windows phone. Why waste money developing an app for an OS when there may be little point to it in the first place?

 

If it tests and sells pretty well, the apps will come.

A note on the keyboard...the virtual keyboard with the z10 has gotten great reviews.

 

http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/30/3929760/...erry-z10-review

That review is pretty good although the fact the reviewer says they try to spend no time actually TALKING on the phone makes me think initially that this review is not for me. I use my phone for work all day, I talk probably 3-5 hours a day every day. Talk, email, text is about all I do.

That review is pretty good although the fact the reviewer says they try to spend no time actually TALKING on the phone makes me think initially that this review is not for me. I use my phone for work all day, I talk probably 3-5 hours a day every day. Talk, email, text is about all I do.

 

Engadget review said that voice quality was alright.

You have to imagine part of the reason people are afraid to get into the BB10 app market is fear of failure, just as it is with the Windows phone. Why waste money developing an app for an OS when there may be little point to it in the first place?

 

If it tests and sells pretty well, the apps will come.

 

At $200, I'm not sure how well it will sell.

 

I mean, honestly, would an average user rather have this phone over an iPhone or Galaxy S3? I seriously doubt it. RIM should have sold the phone at a lesser price to boost early adoption. Even a $50 advantage over the iPhone would have put them in a much better place IMO.

At $200, I'm not sure how well it will sell.

 

I mean, honestly, would an average user rather have this phone over an iPhone or Galaxy S3? I seriously doubt it. RIM should have sold the phone at a lesser price to boost early adoption. Even a $50 advantage over the iPhone would have put them in a much better place IMO.

 

Eeeh, yeah, that's too much. Or give a $50 credit towards the App store or something.

 

Maybe they can alter their philosophy in trying to get back to the corporate world and they'll offer discounts when selling multiple phones.

At $200, I'm not sure how well it will sell.

 

I mean, honestly, would an average user rather have this phone over an iPhone or Galaxy S3? I seriously doubt it. RIM should have sold the phone at a lesser price to boost early adoption. Even a $50 advantage over the iPhone would have put them in a much better place IMO.

 

Have to agree, with the head start ios, android and to an extent, even windows mobile 7/8, there just isn't enough incentive here, especially considering the total lack of apps.

IMO there are really 2-3 different kind of smart phone users and you have to have certain things in place to capture one of those bases.

 

1. Casual phone users/heavy app users-folks that use apps, and lots of them. They know things about their phone that I never will

2. Business users/email/calls-rarely open apps, use things like webex, email, dropbo/box.com and corp info

3. Old people that cant see their phone-get a jitterbug you old farts

The Cnet review said basically a poorly manufactured iphone 5 with a buggy OS. No reason for any user to switch over to it.

 

IMO the ONLY thing blackberry EVER had that was an advantage was their keyboard and the Push email function. Both are gone.

They are still the leader in the government sector due to their security. That is what will keep them in business for a while longer (or at least make them attractive enough for a merger).

They are still the leader in the government sector due to their security. That is what will keep them in business for a while longer (or at least make them attractive enough for a merger).

There are so many MDM management companies out there increasing their support for other devices that I believe that advantage is disappearing quickly. I work with alot of healthcare companies which have rolled out IOS devices in the last year with MDM and federation (OAuth).

Eeeh, yeah, that's too much. Or give a $50 credit towards the App store or something.

 

Maybe they can alter their philosophy in trying to get back to the corporate world and they'll offer discounts when selling multiple phones.

 

That would be great too. I'm not sure how many apps on BlackBerry World are paid apps, but I know that a lot of them are crap and don't work well with BB10. So why not give the customer an incentive to try out some of the paid apps without much risk?

Rayman Jungle Run is an awesome, awesome game on the tablet. The graphics, music, and gameplay are top-notch. Here's a screen I grabbed while playing just now.

 

Have to agree, with the head start ios, android and to an extent, even windows mobile 7/8, there just isn't enough incentive here, especially considering the total lack of apps.

 

I don't buy that. 70K at launch should keep 95% of users happy. I'd guess an average person has 30-50 apps on their phone. So instead of 125 fart apps, they may only have 25 to choose from? Big deal. As long as they have the major apps they'll be fine for now.

I don't buy that. 70K at launch should keep 95% of users happy. I'd guess an average person has 30-50 apps on their phone. So instead of 125 fart apps, they may only have 25 to choose from? Big deal. As long as they have the major apps they'll be fine for now.

 

I don't mean lack of apps in a sheer numbers regard, I mean a lack of quality apps. Most of these apps were rushed to platform, so they'll be half-assed ports that are missing features. Even windows mobile has this issue and their app store touts like 500,000 apps. My friend had one, and any app he had, it was better on both android and ios to an extent I can't quite explain. It was just like low quality garbage if it wasn't something that was built in.

 

With all of these platforms, what you have are developers that dedicate time, and they're going to dedicate it to #1 - iOS, #2 - Android, then #3 and #4 will get whatever leftover time they have, which leads to delayed or feature weak releases.

iOS 6 untethered jailbreak is out for all iOS devices, for those who are interested.

Edited February 4, 201313 yr by chw42

Got my Nexus 4 today. Pictures and videos don't do this phone justice. You gotta see the glass backing for yourself, it looks f***ing awesome.

Got my Nexus 4 today. Pictures and videos don't do this phone justice. You gotta see the glass backing for yourself, it looks f***ing awesome.

 

You mean the glass backing everyone that uses Android's railed on Apple for using for years? Now it's cool, though?

You mean the glass backing everyone that uses Android's railed on Apple for using for years? Now it's cool, though?

 

Did Apple's backing shine and sparkle when you put light to it? NO! I was just saying I had no idea how cool the design on the back actually was until I saw it with my own eyes.

 

Anyways, this is a high quality phone, but it is wider than my Galaxy Nexus, which I could easily use with one hand. The fact that this has a glass backing and is wider makes me a bit uncomfortable when using it with one hand outside.

 

I ordered a 3M carbon fiber skin for the back though, so I shouldn't have to worry about the back cracking after I apply it.

Edited February 5, 201313 yr by chw42

Anyone use Roku? Looking into it for MLB.tv

Got my Nexus 4 today. Pictures and videos don't do this phone justice. You gotta see the glass backing for yourself, it looks f***ing awesome.

 

Your response to my drooling over the same feature on the sexy Sony Xperia Z:

 

...glass is prone to breaking and it's a bad idea to cover the back of a phone with it.

Edited February 6, 201313 yr by BigSqwert

Your response to my drooling over the same feature on the sexy Sony Xperia Z:

 

Read my previous post.

 

I still feel like it's a bad idea BTW. I wouldn't go anywhere with the phone without a case on.

Anyone use any free third-party applications to manage Apple devices (upload, download music playlists, etc)? I used to use iDump, but that ceased being updated.

Edited February 6, 201313 yr by Whitewashed in '05

Anyone use any free third-party applications to manage Apple devices (upload, download music playlists, etc)? I used to use iDump, but that ceased being updated.

 

iFunbox.

 

lol iDump.

iFunbox.

 

lol iDump.

 

Or on Windows, you can use iExplorer.

Did Apple's backing shine and sparkle when you put light to it? NO! I was just saying I had no idea how cool the design on the back actually was until I saw it with my own eyes.

 

Anyways, this is a high quality phone, but it is wider than my Galaxy Nexus, which I could easily use with one hand. The fact that this has a glass backing and is wider makes me a bit uncomfortable when using it with one hand outside.

 

I ordered a 3M carbon fiber skin for the back though, so I shouldn't have to worry about the back cracking after I apply it.

 

Just don't drop your damn phone. I've never used a case on any of my phones, and I've yet to break one. Sure, they get dinged up a bit, maybe some micro scratches, but nothing serious...but taking that beautiful phone you just got and stuffing it into an ass ugly case makes me angry. And I don't care what case you got...in comparison to that phone, it's ugly.

 

I didn't mind the glass backing of my older iPhones, either...and I wouldn't mind it on that Nexus...it's just something that doesn't bother me. I view phones as delicate electronics, sometimes beautiful ones. I don't go around dropping portable hard drives, watches, or any other semi delicate products, either...I don't know how people break their s*** so much (but they do)...just be careful with it, damn it.

 

Also, keep in mind most people replace their phones every 1-2 years anyway, so who cares if it gets some dings, dents, or micro scratches...nobody can notice that but you, the user of the phone. It's like being bothered that the underside of your cars bumper got scratched...nobody can see it anyway...so who cares.

Edited February 6, 201313 yr by Y2HH