Mathew Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 someone will I'm sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 I heard a minor leaguer. I doubt its anyone all that great. Solid move by the Royals though. Sox should grab Stanton and a cheap starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 We'll probably see him this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox247 Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 KANSAS CITY -- The Royals made a move to bolster their bullpen Monday by acquiring veteran left-hander Graeme Lloyd from the Mets for Triple-A right-hander Jeremy Hill. Lloyd, 35, is an 11-year veteran. He was 1-2 with a 3.31 earned run average this year for the Mets. Hill, 25, was with the Royals earlier this year. He was 1-3 with a 7.81 earned run average at Triple-A Omaha. With Jeremy Affeldt recently moved to the bullpen, the Royals now have two lefty relievers. For most of the year, they had no left-handers in the bullpen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorthsox Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 Nice pickup for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 Sounds like a no brainer for the Royals. Guy with an ERA over 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 Sox should grab Stanton and a cheap starter. I really like the idea of the Sox getting Stanton. Keep in mind that he was an All-Star last year. And, I would love to add a reliever like him to the pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorthsox Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 Yea we shoulda got him for Majewski, he was more than just a lefty specialist for the 'spos and it woulda been nice to have kept him outa KC's hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorthsox Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 Stanton has been hurt most of the yr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 There are tons of lefties out there. If we want a lefty out of the pen, I would opt to not trade anyone, but rather bring up Arnie Munoz and his Zito-like curveball. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but didn't Stanton sign for like 3-years? I don't want him for that. Because IIRC, his contract is 3-years, $9 mill, with him getting $2 mill this year, $3 mill next year, and $4 mill the year after that. I'd much rather have Marte, Munoz, and Wunsch then have Marte, Stanton, and Wunsch. I like Marte, Munoz, and Wunsch, because all 3 are different style pitchers, and if I'm thinking right, 2 of them could go against righties as well. IMO, we trade for one solid starter for down the stretch, and that's all we will need. Put Koch on waivers....if he clears, send him to AAA. If he doesn't, HALELUJIA(I just slaughtered that word). You can then bring up Munoz, and Wright, andDiaz to use in the pen(which ever you want first). That is then a pen of White, Gordon, Glover, Wunsch, Marte, and I'll say Wright. I say we try to trade White and Glover to the Cards and get something(I'm not sure what though....as far as I'm concerned, 3 fringe prospects would do the trick). Tony LaRussa gave White some baseball loving last year, and I'm sure he could find some use for Glover. We then bring up Munoz and Diaz....and you have a pretty good pen right there. Cheap bullpen which is also effective. Looks good on paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 We are not going to demote, waive or release Koch. He'll very likely be next year what we expected him to be this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 yeah what the hell are you thinking putting Koch on waivers? That would be like the reds putting Griffey on waivers because he hasnt been putting up the numbers he use to and OBVIOUSLY isnt what he was... I wouldnt even say Koch is having a bad year.. Hes blown what 4 saves, that isnt that much, and his era is like 5.43 which is bad, but I mean its not that bad because relievers suffer big time with the era, you can get your ERA really high and it takes forever to get back down due to the ammount of innings you throw.. Koch is going to be better next year and I am sure he will get better as we head down the stretch, but releasing him or sending him down would be a waste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorthsox Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 Koch will undoubtably be put on waivers Aug. 1st, that doesn't mean we'll release him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 I wouldnt even say Koch is having a bad year.. Hes blown what 4 saves, that isnt that much, and his era is like 5.43 which is bad, but I mean its not that bad because relievers suffer big time with the era, you can get your ERA really high and it takes forever to get back down due to the ammount of innings you throw.. I guess you haven't been watching many games this season. Koch isn't having a bad year, he's having a TERRIBLE year. In fact, he hasn't even been close to respectable at all this season. Case in point, he's lost 8 MPH on his velocity, which greatly hurts his out pitch which is his fastball. He really doesn't have anything off speed that can get hitters out and his fastball has been straight with no movement all season. I'd say that pretty much sums up Koch's season: TERRIBLE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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