That's what it came down to in 2008.

 

Haha I didn't even think of that, well played.

No one is counting the Twins out. He was responding to Greg's post basically counting us out.

 

It wasn't just him. I've seen quite a few posts talk about how the Twins won't stick around because of their pitching (mainly starters).

Yeah, counting the Twins or us out in the division right now is silly. I think it's basically a coin flip as to which of us make the playoffs as currently constructed.

I like our team better, especially considering I think we'll add Manny in about 3 weeks...but they never go away...so it will be a battle.

It wasn't just him. I've seen quite a few posts talk about how the Twins won't stick around because of their pitching (mainly starters).

Yeah, they have the advantage on O, us with our arms...

I like our team better, especially considering I think we'll add Manny in about 3 weeks...but they never go away...so it will be a battle.

 

If we add a legitimate DH with a pulse, we definitely are the favorites.

Wiki him.

 

I did. What does the nickname come from?

Yeah, they have the advantage on O, us with our arms...

Maybe on paper but they've given up 1 less run than us all year and played 1 more game.

Maybe on paper but they've given up 1 less run than us all year and played 1 more game.

 

Look at the ballpark they play in and the one we play in, and you'll see that such a stat actually proves we have noticeably better pitching.

 

I did. What does the nickname come from?

 

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I did. What does the nickname come from?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sou...gAAAKoEBU_QWwoF

Look at the ballpark they play in and the one we play in, and you'll see that such a stat actually proves we have noticeably better pitching.

That's fine and dandy but they still get to pitch in their park the rest of the way (half the time) and not on a neutral field.

That's fine and dandy but they still get to pitch in their park the rest of the way (half the time) and not on a neutral field.

On June 1, they had given up 45 runs less than us....

That's fine and dandy but they still get to pitch in their park the rest of the way (half the time) and not on a neutral field.

 

Indeed. But that doesn't change the fact that the runs needed to win a game in their park and at ours is way different due to how the places play, so more than total runs allowed needs to be looked at.