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Hadron Collider recreates mini Big-Bang

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This process took place in a safe, controlled environment, generating incredibly hot and dense sub-atomic fireballs with temperatures of over ten trillion degrees, a million times hotter than the center of the Sun.

 

While I feel this is cool to the Nth degree, I cannot explain my uneasiness about what they're doing here. Recreating mini versions of a universal phenomenon that we can't even scratch the surface of explaining or understanding the immense power of to even a billionth of a degree seems dangerous to a level I can't even grasp.

 

A controlled environment? Laugh worthy. If you accidentally create something in that environment, it would undoubtedly destroy that controlled environment in it's unending quest to remain uncontrollable.

 

Full story:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20101...big-bang-in-lab

I didn't think we had the technology to control anything that was ten trillion degrees.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Nov 9, 2010 -> 08:43 AM)
This process took place in a safe, controlled environment, generating incredibly hot and dense sub-atomic fireballs with temperatures of over ten trillion degrees, a million times hotter than the center of the Sun.

 

While I feel this is cool to the Nth degree, I cannot explain my uneasiness about what they're doing here. Recreating mini versions of a universal phenomenon that we can't even scratch the surface of explaining or understanding the immense power of to even a billionth of a degree seems dangerous to a level I can't even grasp.

 

A controlled environment? Laugh worthy. If you accidentally create something in that environment, it would undoubtedly destroy that controlled environment in it's unending quest to remain uncontrollable.

 

Full story:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20101...big-bang-in-lab

 

It's more sensationalized reporting of science than anything. It's really nothing dangerous. It's recreating the energy levels seen at that time, but not the density of mass or anything.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Nov 9, 2010 -> 09:23 AM)
I didn't think we had the technology to control anything that was ten trillion degrees.

 

We're talking about very, very small amounts of matter (sub-atomic particles) reaching those temperatures for infintisimally small amounts of time.

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 9, 2010 -> 09:27 AM)
We're talking about very, very small amounts of matter (sub-atomic particles) reaching those temperatures for infintisimally small amounts of time.

 

Oh, I get that, I'm merely saying that playing with such things can create unexpected side effects. Exact science is not an exact science, after all. :)

 

I know it's mostly sensationalized, as we love to think the worst of these types of experiments, but as they cannot be certain about what these experiments may render, it's scientifically impossible to say it's a safe/controlled environment. What if that temperature is enough to rip the space time continuum and create a pocket of anti-time that would move backwards through space time? What then? 50 years ago that bunker didn't exist...and what about the people 500 years ago running into that pocket of anti-time, they could destroy everything!

 

TELL ME WHAT THEN?

 

:D

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Nov 9, 2010 -> 09:32 AM)
Oh, I get that, I'm merely saying that playing with such things can create unexpected side effects. Exact science is not an exact science, after all. :)

 

I know it's mostly sensationalized, as we love to think the worst of these types of experiments, but as they cannot be certain about what these experiments may render, it's scientifically impossible to say it's a safe/controlled environment. What if that temperature is enough to rip the space time continuum and create a pocket of anti-time that would move backwards through space time? What then? 50 years ago that bunker didn't exist...and what about the people 500 years ago running into that pocket of anti-time, they could destroy everything!

 

TELL ME WHAT THEN?

 

:D

 

But they can predict this sort of stuff based on the math. It's not any more impossible to say it's a safe or controlled environment than it is to be absolutely sure of the truth of anything. The Standard Model would have to be pretty well broken for anything catastrophic to come from this.

 

eta:

Here's CERN's press release:

http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleas...0/PR21.10E.html

 

A little more low-key.

Edited by StrangeSox

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 9, 2010 -> 09:35 AM)
But they can predict this sort of stuff based on the math. It's not any more impossible to say it's a safe or controlled environment than it is to be absolutely sure of the truth of anything. The Standard Model would have to be pretty well broken for anything catastrophic to come from this.

 

You've done nothing to alleviate my fears that they will rip the space time continuum which will undoubtedly cause disastrous consequences to either the entire universe or, more probable, to our localized galaxy.

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QUOTE (Y2HH @ Nov 9, 2010 -> 09:46 AM)
You've done nothing to alleviate my fears that they will rip the space time continuum which will undoubtedly cause disastrous consequences to either the entire universe or, more probable, to our localized galaxy.

 

 

Well, if it happens, you won't be around to notice. :lolhitting

I believe I heard a scientist say these kind of collisions happen all the time in our atmosphere. This is just a controlled environment where they can observe them.

Jurassic Park was a "controlled" environment. Look how that turned out. :huh:

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QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 9, 2010 -> 10:59 AM)
Jurassic Park was a "controlled" environment. Look how that turned out. :huh:

 

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN.

 

SOUND THE ALARMS.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Nov 9, 2010 -> 10:32 AM)
What if that temperature is enough to rip the space time continuum and create a pocket of anti-time that would move backwards through space time?

I think, in that case, we can count on Q helping us out by giving the Captain a chance to un-do the damage.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 9, 2010 -> 11:17 AM)
I think, in that case, we can count on Q helping us out by giving the Captain a chance to un-do the damage.

 

That would make you the captain since Q doesn't really talk to me. :(

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