October 18, 201114 yr http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writ...ml?eref=writers The White Sox are expected to try to bring starting pitcher Mark Buehrle back on a two-year deal, and he may be one of the many veterans loyal to owner Jerry Reinsdorf who stays for less. If he leaves, most would expect it to be for his hometown St. Louis Cardinals. Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writ...l#ixzz1b8UM7U00
October 18, 201114 yr Author http://www.csnchicago.com/blog/whitesox-ta...tm_medium=email By JJ Stankevitz CSNChicago.com SI's Jon Heyman reports the White Sox "are expected" to re-sign Mark Buehrle to a two-year contract, potentially on a discount thanks to his loyalty to Jerry Reinsdorf. But if the Sox do re-sign Buehrle, it would have cause quite a bit of shuffling in the team's starting rotation. Jake Peavy will almost certainly be with the White Sox next year, as he's owed $17 million in 2012 and has a $4 million buyout of his 2013 option that's unlikely to be picked up -- so his total price tag for next year will be $21 million. Given his 4.49 ERA and the fact he hasn't made more than 20 starts in a season since 2008, it's logical to assume he'll stay with the Sox. Philip Humber is another good bet to stay on the South Side, as his fine 2011 campaign and low price tag make him an attractive option for a team expected to scale back its payroll a bit. So that leaves three spots open in the rotation for John Danks, Gavin Floyd, Chris Sale, Zach Stewart and possibly Buehrle. If Buehrle is brought back, one of these scenarios would likely play out: 1. The Sox deal away both Danks and Floyd and move Sale into the rotation, giving them a starting five of Buehrle, Peavy, Humber, Sale and Stewart. 2. The Sox deal either Floyd or Danks and move Sale into the rotation with Stewart going to Triple-A or the bullpen. (Buehrle, Danks/Floyd, Peavy, Humber, Sale) 3. The Sox hang on to Floyd and Danks and keep Sale in the bullpen. (Buehrle, Danks, Floyd, Peavy, Humber) 4. The Sox hang on to Floyd and Danks and send Sale to Triple-A to start. (Buehrle, Danks, Floyd, Peavy, Humber) Sale is the most likely linchpin in all of this, and with Ozzie Guillen -- who wanted to keep Sale as a reliever long-term -- out, a clear path appears to exist within the organization to move Sale to the rotation. If Sale does become a major-league starter next season, it'll mean the Sox will have to move somebody -- most likely Danks or Floyd -- to retain Buehrle. Moving Sale to the minors to work on a few things could be an option, but that's mere speculation at this point.
October 18, 201114 yr If this is true, then I don't expect a full blown rebuild. Man honestly, who knows that the hell the Sox are going to do. KW might not be done surprising us just yet.
October 18, 201114 yr QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 08:52 AM) If this is true, then I don't expect a full blown rebuild. Man honestly, who knows that the hell the Sox are going to do. KW might not be done surprising us just yet. The most obvious plan I can see is "Trade Quentin and Danks, keep M-56 and go into the season with that." Signing M-56 fits with the "Keep M-56" part of that plan. But yeah...this is where Trader Kenny earns his nickname.
October 18, 201114 yr 2. The Sox deal either Floyd or Danks and move Sale into the rotation with Stewart going to Triple-A or the bullpen. (Buehrle, Danks/Floyd, Peavy, Humber, Sale) I vote for this option. With Sale needing to build up his arm and Peavy's arm constantly falling off, you will need that 6th starter. Let Stewart every 5 days in Charlotte so he can be ready to pitch for the Sox when needed.
October 18, 201114 yr QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 08:59 AM) I vote for this option. With Sale needing to build up his arm and Peavy's arm constantly falling off, you will need that 6th starter. Let Stewart every 5 days in Charlotte so he can be ready to pitch for the Sox when needed. I'm entirely in agreement with this statement.
October 18, 201114 yr Author QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 07:59 AM) I vote for this option. With Sale needing to build up his arm and Peavy's arm constantly falling off, you will need that 6th starter. Let Stewart every 5 days in Charlotte so he can be ready to pitch for the Sox when needed. It also probably leaves you Axelrod and maybe even Santiago based on how the pen does over the winter.
October 18, 201114 yr I vote for this option. With Sale needing to build up his arm and Peavy's arm constantly falling off, you will need that 6th starter. Let Stewart every 5 days in Charlotte so he can be ready to pitch for the Sox when needed. Yep, this is my first choice as well.
October 18, 201114 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 09:08 AM) It also probably leaves you Axelrod and maybe even Santiago based on how the pen does over the winter. Santiago...I'd look at grooming him for the pen (probably by starting him in Charlotte if there's a spot open)...but I'd only look at him if Thornton is moved, and I'd only move Matty for a solid offer. Axelrod...I'm thinking I'd put him as the last guy out of the pen right now.
October 18, 201114 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 06:59 AM) I'm entirely in agreement with this statement. Ya, I think this will be the consensus around here, certainly makes the most sense in my eyes.
October 18, 201114 yr Author QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 08:21 AM) Santiago...I'd look at grooming him for the pen (probably by starting him in Charlotte if there's a spot open)...but I'd only look at him if Thornton is moved, and I'd only move Matty for a solid offer. Axelrod...I'm thinking I'd put him as the last guy out of the pen right now. Thornton is probably the #2 person to be moved this winter. I'm assuming he is gone.
October 18, 201114 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 07:33 AM) Thornton is probably the #2 person to be moved this winter. I'm assuming he is gone. 3. Quentin and Danks/Floyd.
October 18, 201114 yr QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 09:35 AM) 3. Quentin and Danks/Floyd. I'd agree with this...these guys actually are overkill on this roster, Thornton isn't.
October 18, 201114 yr Author QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 08:35 AM) 3. Quentin and Danks/Floyd. Yep. 1.CQ 2.MT 3.JD/GF, if not both.
October 18, 201114 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 09:39 AM) Yep. 1.CQ 2.MT 3.JD/GF, if not both. No, he's saying that Thornton comes in at #3 after those guys.
October 18, 201114 yr Author QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 08:40 AM) No, he's saying that Thornton comes in at #3 after those guys. It is awful nice of you to interpret for Row.
October 18, 201114 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 09:42 AM) It is awful nice of you to interpret for Row. You did as well.
October 18, 201114 yr It still surprises me that M56 is predicted to be a Type B FA. A mid-rotation or better starter on most teams is a Type B?
October 18, 201114 yr QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 09:43 AM) It still surprises me that M56 is predicted to be a Type B FA. A mid-rotation or better starter on most teams is a Type B? It's the classic "The advanced metrics hate M-56 because he doesn't strike enough people out" game.
October 18, 201114 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 08:42 AM) It is awful nice of you to interpret for Row. QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 08:43 AM) You did as well. How many more threads are you two going to turn into fights about nothing?
October 18, 201114 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 07:42 AM) It is awful nice of you to interpret for Row. QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 07:43 AM) You did as well. Balta was correct, sorry Mike.
October 18, 201114 yr Author QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 08:44 AM) How many more threads are you two going to turn into fights about nothing? As many as I get stalked in?
October 18, 201114 yr Author QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 08:45 AM) Balta was correct, sorry Mike. In that case I disagree. I think the $6 million guy out of the pen gets moved first.
October 18, 201114 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 08:53 AM) As many as I get stalked in? Don't make me turn this car around!
October 18, 201114 yr I knew he'd be back, though I have to question why. If he's down to play things out on a bad roster, I'm down to watch him do so.
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