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2011-2012 NBA Season Thread

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Second game this season where 76ers just crushed the Bulls in the 3rd.

 

I still think the Bulls are the better team, this was just a perfect storm for the 76ers.

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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 1, 2012 -> 09:22 PM)
I'll say it right now (and I'm sure I'll be reminded that I've been wrong in the past): I'll be surprised if the Bulls don't lose both games in Philly before they get back home. With the Rose injury and a total ass-whoopin' at home, their confidence has to be on fumes right now.

 

Bulls have a better team. They just came out flat in the second half. I expect all the games to be close. I still expect the Bulls to win the series even tho everybody will now go into panic mode tomorrow.

 

We'll see if Philly beats us in a game when they shoot under 50%

QUOTE (Jake @ May 1, 2012 -> 07:31 PM)
We'll see if Philly beats us in a game when they shoot under 50%

If our defense keeps playing like this they'll continue shooting over 50%. What did they have, 20 fast break dunks? That's a pretty high percentage shot.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 1, 2012 -> 09:28 PM)
Oh, and I've just learned Tyson Chandler has won DPOY. Yes, I was wrong about the Knicks overall. But I had solid reasoning for thinking they could be elite. Tyson was one of them. If Carmelo doesn't shoot 38% for nearly 40 games, and if Amare doesn't have easily the worst year of his career, I could've very well been right.

No, they were never going to be elite. A 7th seed isnt a few breaks away from being elite.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 1, 2012 -> 09:33 PM)
If our defense keeps playing like this they'll continue shooting over 50%. What did they have, 20 fast break dunks? That's a pretty high percentage shot.

 

Evan Turner has changed everything for them. His scoring/playmaking is something that coming in you weren't really concerned about.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 1, 2012 -> 09:33 PM)
If our defense keeps playing like this they'll continue shooting over 50%. What did they have, 20 fast break dunks? That's a pretty high percentage shot.

 

Had they just played remotely repeatable basketball in the half-court it would have been a pretty close game. Oh well, I hope Thibs gets them ready for the next one. Philly is in an awesome mindset right now, we need to hit them in the mouth and show them they don't belong. Credit their coaching for instilling that belief in them, it really showed in the way they played.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 1, 2012 -> 09:34 PM)
No, they were never going to be elite. A 7th seed isnt a few breaks away from being elite.

 

In this s***ty conference? If Amare/Melo play like Amare/Melo, they could've been. That's not even talking injuries. Anyway, Congrats to Tyson. He's improved so much in the last couple years.

QUOTE (Jake @ May 1, 2012 -> 09:36 PM)
Had they just played remotely repeatable basketball in the half-court it would have been a pretty close game. Oh well, I hope Thibs gets them ready for the next one. Philly is in an awesome mindset right now, we need to hit them in the mouth and show them they don't belong. Credit their coaching for instilling that belief in them, it really showed in the way they played.

DRose coming out with the game ball was kind of dumb. I fully expect them to be focused on the road as they are one of the best road teams in the NBA.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 1, 2012 -> 09:36 PM)
In this s***ty conference? If Amare/Melo play like Amare/Melo, they could've been. That's not even talking injuries. Anyway, Congrats to Tyson. He's improved so much in the last couple years.

Nope, they couldnt have been. They are a team that barely made the playoffs and had to fire their coach during the season. They were never going to be elite. Its time to abandon that horrific prediction.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 1, 2012 -> 09:38 PM)
Nope, they couldnt have been. They are a team that barely made the playoffs and had to fire their coach during the season. They were never going to be elite. Its time to abandon that horrific prediction.

 

Yes, because anybody could've predicted two of the premier players in basketball simultaneously having the worst years of their careers. I said before the season that Tyson was an elite defensive big. I was mocked. I at least get that now.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 1, 2012 -> 09:40 PM)
Yes, because anybody could've predicted two of the premier players in basketball simultaneously having the worst years of their careers. I said before the season that Tyson was an elite defensive big. I was mocked. I at least get that now.

No you were mocked because you said he made the Knicks not only elite, but better than the Bulls. I'm pretty sure anyone who watched the Mavs spoil the finals for you last season knew that Tyson Chandler does one thing and one thing only, play defense.

 

But then again, who could have predicted any of this????????

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 1, 2012 -> 09:46 PM)
No you were mocked because you said he made the Knicks not only elite, but better than the Bulls. I'm pretty sure anyone who watched the Mavs spoil the finals for you last season knew that Tyson Chandler does one thing and one thing only, play defense.

 

But then again, who could have predicted any of this????????

 

Wrong again. I said they had a case for second best team after the Heat. I never said they were definitively better than the Bulls. And what do you mean spoil the finals for me? lol. Oh yeah, my Heat, baby. I love them. Please. And Zoom, Kyyle, etc, were in here saying that I was overrating Chandler and that he wasn't that good.

So the only silver lining is that the Bulls won all year so they would have the weakest 1st round opponent. If you were going to lose your identity and get smoked on defense, the best time for it is the first round.

 

Just hope this focuses the team on clean play and defense, because they dont need to be flashy.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 1, 2012 -> 09:50 PM)
Wrong again. I said they had a case for second best team after the Heat. I never said they were definitively better than the Bulls. And what do you mean spoil the finals for me? lol. Oh yeah, my Heat, baby. I love them. Please. And Zoom, Kyyle, etc, were in here saying that I was overrating Chandler and that he wasn't that good.

 

Hey, I told you personally I wouldn't bring that post up with you again and would not razz you for it again, so don't drag me into your arguments with others. I'm done with it, you made a prediction, it is what it is.

QUOTE (lostfan @ May 1, 2012 -> 07:25 PM)
Boozer and Noah both disappeared due to horrible PG play. Watson and Lucas were abortions

The offense was atrocious in the 2nd half. Defense was foul. That was terrible. The one on one play that I saw after a good offensive first half was just disgusting. Noah was money in the 1st half too and I want to see more of that cause he has the opportunity to do that all the time.

 

Really really disgusted. Normally i'd say its just a loss, but given the mental beatdown this team has taken, I'm sure they will have a lot of doubt in there mind. They need to get past it and play strong in game 3 on Friday.

It actually may be a blessing to get away from the United Center because it just seemed to have no energy.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 1, 2012 -> 10:02 PM)
Hey, I told you personally I wouldn't bring that post up with you again and would not razz you for it again, so don't drag me into your arguments with others. I'm done with it, you made a prediction, it is what it is.

 

I don't care about getting razzed for it. It was not about that and you know why I got pissed. I'm just saying looking back, I wasn't really that far off. There's no way anybody could've foreseen Carmelo being so bad for 40 games and Amare being so bad all year.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 1, 2012 -> 08:07 PM)
I don't care about getting razzed for it. It was not about that and you know why I got pissed. I'm just saying looking back, I wasn't really that far off. There's no way anybody could've foreseen Carmelo being so bad for 40 games and Amare being so bad all year.

So does Kenny get a pass cause no one would have expected Dunn and Rios to be the two worse players in baseball? Not being an ass, just asking. Either way, that is long gone...lets focus on whats going on now.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ May 1, 2012 -> 10:10 PM)
So does Kenny get a pass cause no one would have expected Dunn and Rios to be the two worse players in baseball? Not being an ass, just asking. Either way, that is long gone...lets focus on whats going on now.

 

Dunn? Yes. Rios? No. But fine. I'll let it go. Though I do deserve some credit for Tyson. Nobody has any problems letting me know when I'm wrong. I said Tyson was elite. Nobody agreed with me. Now he's the DPOY. Whatever.

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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 1, 2012 -> 10:07 PM)
I don't care about getting razzed for it. It was not about that and you know why I got pissed. I'm just saying looking back, I wasn't really that far off. There's no way anybody could've foreseen Carmelo being so bad for 40 games and Amare being so bad all year.

 

Yes it is, J4L. They played the exact same way last season when Carmelo came to the Knicks. Melo and Amare just do not work well together, their games offset each other, and it drags their numbers down. Everyone got all worked up about Lin, and what happened? He came back to earth and the Knicks went right back to being the .500 team that they have been since Melo has been there.

 

It is a huge combination of players that simply do not know how to work together.

 

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 1, 2012 -> 10:12 PM)
Yes it is, J4L. They played the exact same way last season when Carmelo came to the Knicks. Melo and Amare just do not work well together, their games offset each other, and it drags their numbers down. Everyone got all worked up about Lin, and what happened? He came back to earth and the Knicks went right back to being the .500 team that they have been since Melo has been there.

 

It is a huge combination of players that simply do not know how to work together.

 

Whatever, man. This board just cracks me up. It's not even that I give a s*** about what anybody thinks. But it just goes to show you that around these parts, if you're wrong, you're going to hear about it. When you're right, well, it was a fluke or something. Nobody will even say well "at least he was right about Tyson." The Knicks are worlds better than they were last year defensively. This reminds me of when Marty was the only one who said Sergio Santos needs to go if KW can get a good haul back. Marty was dismissed by everybody. Three weeks later Santos is gone. lol.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 1, 2012 -> 10:26 PM)
Whatever, man. This board just cracks me up. It's not even that I give a s*** about what anybody thinks. But it just goes to show you that around these parts, if you're wrong, you're going to hear about it. When you're right, well, it was a fluke or something. Nobody will even say well "at least he was right about Tyson." The Knicks are worlds better than they were last year defensively. This reminds me of when Marty was the only one who said Sergio Santos needs to go if KW can get a good haul back. Marty was dismissed by everybody. Three weeks later Santos is gone. lol.

 

Jesus h, j4l, who told you that Tyson wouldn't be DPOY and when did you say he would be?

 

Tyson has always been a fantastic defensive player, there is no doubt about this. If you want credit for calling your shot, and if you did call that shot early this season, then congrats. Honestly, good call.

 

You are trying to dredge up that argument and you should let it lie. There was so much more to it than you saying Tyson was going to be DPOY and we both know it.

 

f***.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 1, 2012 -> 08:12 PM)
Dunn? Yes. Rios? No. But fine. I'll let it go. Though I do deserve some credit for Tyson. Nobody has any problems letting me know when I'm wrong. I said Tyson was elite. Nobody agreed with me. Now he's the DPOY. Whatever.

If I disagreed that Chandler is an elite defender, well then I don't recall doing such. I've always felt Tyson was a legit defender. You were right, but he's a pretty known commodity on the defensive side of the ball.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ May 1, 2012 -> 10:34 PM)
If I disagreed that Chandler is an elite defender, well then I don't recall doing such. I've always felt Tyson was a legit defender. You were right, but he's a pretty known commodity on the defensive side of the ball.

 

Ibaka should've won the DPOY anyway.

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