And greg when I refer to being on the wrong side of history, its this what I am referring to:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ElectoralCollege1860.svg

 

Now compare to the map at http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

 

Over 150 years later, the first map still rules. The only state that would have voted for Lincoln and not Obama, Indiana. The only state that would have voted against Lincoln and for Obama, Virginia.

 

Some days I wish that the North would have just let the South go. Im tired of supporting them with my tax dollars, while they refuse to change socially.

 

And that is something your beloved liberal media never talks about, donor states.

 

http://taxfoundation.org/blog/why-do-some-...ding-not-others

 

http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxfoundati...ftsbs-large.jpg

 

Irony that 8 of the top 10 at spending federal money will vote Republican.

 

Meanwhile its likely that at least 8 of 10 donor states will vote Democrat. (Maybe 10 of 10.)

 

http://taxfoundation.org/article/federal-t...enditures-state

 

Thanks to a steeply progressive federal income tax, states with higher incomes pay vastly higher federal taxes, payments that are unlikely ever to be matched by federal spending directed to those states. Ironically, most of these high-paying states are the so-called blue states that have generally elected politicians who support a more steeply progressive tax system even though their own constituents bear a greater share of the burden as the code gets more progressive.

 

I always wonder why no one hammers on that. You dont want federal money, why am I sending it to you?

 

The hypocrisy is unnerving.

Edited September 4, 201213 yr by Soxbadger

And greg when I refer to being on the wrong side of history, its this what I am referring to:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ElectoralCollege1860.svg

 

Now compare to the map at http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

 

Over 150 years later, the first map still rules. The only state that would have voted for Lincoln and not Obama, Indiana. The only state that would have voted against Lincoln and for Obama, Virginia.

 

Some days I wish that the North would have just let the South go. Im tired of supporting them with my tax dollars, while they refuse to change socially.

 

And that is something youre beloved liberal media never talks about, donor states.

 

http://taxfoundation.org/blog/why-do-some-...ding-not-others

 

http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxfoundati...ftsbs-large.jpg

 

Irony that 8 of the top 10 at spending federal money will vote Republican.

 

Meanwhile its likely that at least 8 of 10 donor states will vote Democrat. (Maybe 10 of 10.)

 

http://taxfoundation.org/article/federal-t...enditures-state

 

 

 

I always wonder why no one hammers on that. You dont want federal money, why am I sending it to you?

 

The hypocrisy is unnerving.

 

Thanks Badger, I enjoy your takes. But don't you agree it will be a media lovefest at the upcoming convention? That's mainly what was bothering me and led to my rant.

 

Thanks Badger, I enjoy your takes. But don't you agree it will be a media lovefest at the upcoming convention? That's mainly what was bothering me and led to my rant.

 

I dont watch the conventions or the news.

 

Why would I want my information filtered? Most of us are born post World War II, we really have no excuse for getting our information from the media. 1984, Brave New World, etc were all written before I was born.

 

I have beliefs and rules. The candidate who (in my opinion) is closest to my beliefs and follows my rules gets my vote.

 

Romney can not get my vote. He is probably close to me on some views, but he does not follow my rules (must not be anti-social change.)

 

Social trumps economic, so I have to vote for Obama.

 

 

 

 

Some days I wish that the North would have just let the South go. Im tired of supporting them with my tax dollars, while they refuse to change socially.

 

And that is something youre beloved liberal media never talks about, donor states.

 

Then why are you a liberal?

How are we defining liberal?

 

Because certain definitions I am absolutely one, other definitions I probably fall into "other" category, as I am a utilitarian (I am close a libertarian on certain things, but I dont want to be associated with them on others.)

Edited September 4, 201213 yr by Soxbadger

And greg when I refer to being on the wrong side of history, its this what I am referring to:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ElectoralCollege1860.svg

 

Now compare to the map at http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

 

Over 150 years later, the first map still rules. The only state that would have voted for Lincoln and not Obama, Indiana. The only state that would have voted against Lincoln and for Obama, Virginia.

 

Some days I wish that the North would have just let the South go. Im tired of supporting them with my tax dollars, while they refuse to change socially.

 

And that is something youre beloved liberal media never talks about, donor states.

 

http://taxfoundation.org/blog/why-do-some-...ding-not-others

 

http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxfoundati...ftsbs-large.jpg

 

Irony that 8 of the top 10 at spending federal money will vote Republican.

 

Meanwhile its likely that at least 8 of 10 donor states will vote Democrat. (Maybe 10 of 10.)

 

http://taxfoundation.org/article/federal-t...enditures-state

 

 

 

I always wonder why no one hammers on that. You dont want federal money, why am I sending it to you?

 

The hypocrisy is unnerving.

 

The daily show did a great bit on that last week.

 

I dont watch stewart or colbert that much, but my dad always comments that they make similar arguments/jokes to me.

 

Which makes sense because probably half of their writers could be interchanged with me and no one would notice (except for the fact I cant write, but I bet they look like me).

Corey Booker giving quite the angry/forceful speech right now.

How are we defining liberal?

 

Because certain definitions I am absolutely one, other definitions I probably fall into "other" category, as I am a utilitarian (I am close a libertarian on certain things, but I dont want to be associated with them on others.)

 

What do ya mean the South won't change socially? What do they do down there that is so bad? Just curious.

What do ya mean the South won't change socially? What do they do down there that is so bad? Just curious.

 

Well youre not going to like my answer.

 

So let me preface this, I dont mind people who like religion and think its important. I do mind people who think religious beliefs should be reflected in our govt.

 

For whatever reason there are seemingly more really religious people in the South than North. Because of this you get resistance to social platforms due to religious beliefs (gay marriage is a sin, abortion is a sin). The fact should be, that it doesnt matter its a sin, that it is up to god to judge them.

 

Unfortunately, for a variety of reasons that are very irrelevant, many people believe it is their job to make sure that the rest of us dont sin. It just makes no sense.

 

Imagine for a second, that instead of being a predominantly Christian nation, it was predominantly Jewish. Would we want kosher to be law?

 

Of course not, if I want a bacon cheeseburger, friend shrimp and a milkshake, I as an American should be able to buy that.

 

If God is going to send me to hell for that, heaven must suck anyway because my heaven includes bacon cheeseburgers. It also includes a lot of other things which either means 1) heaven doesnt exist or 2) Im not going there.

 

But well find that out later, for today Im running my life how I want to. Not how some thousand year old book tells me to.

I just learned this interesting fact from the DNC: Obama good, Romney bad.

I dont watch conventions or award shows.

 

We all know that if we could suck our own dicks, we wouldnt leave the house.

 

 

I notice that you failed to adequately fact-check their statement and assign the appropriate number of Pinocchios, pants-on-fires or some other childish measurement for lying!

Its not debate club, its an election.

 

Catchy phrases win, not hard facts.

 

And my phrase is damn catchy.

I dont watch conventions or award shows.

 

good policy to have. i'm watching the Dem convention right now, total snooze fest.

good policy to have. i'm watching the Dem convention right now, total snooze fest.

 

I wish they had to drink before giving speeches.

 

LETS ME TELL YOUS WHATS WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY!

 

Its not even hard anymore, they get a teleprompter. Its ridiculous.

 

 

 

 

Julian Castro just killed it. What a speech.

I notice that you failed to adequately fact-check their statement and assign the appropriate number of Pinocchios, pants-on-fires or some other childish measurement for lying

 

i'm stealing this line and going to use it next time someone talks about fact-check to prove something

I wish they had to drink before giving speeches.

 

LETS ME TELL YOUS WHATS WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY!

 

Its not even hard anymore, they get a teleprompter. Its ridiculous.

 

is Biden giving a speech? same result basically

is Biden giving a speech? same result basically

 

 

I want Biden without a teleprompter.

 

Thats when the magic happens.

I want Biden without a teleprompter.

 

Thats when the magic happens.

 

oh boy here we go. Michele Obama speech.

oh boy here we go. Michele Obama speech.

You mean the person with a higher approval rating than Obama, Romney and all of Congress combined?

higher approval rating than Obama, Romney and all of Congress combined?

 

not very many people approve of any of them

Okay so the DNC is on BET.

 

Im betting the RNC was not.