It's clear that you are ok with him in CF. I am not.

 

 

And you want Josh Hamilton, Kemp, Granderson, Austin Jackson, Adam Jones, McCutchen, Jay or Michael Bourn?

 

And which one of those CFers are realistically available to the White Sox?

 

 

And you want Josh Hamilton, Kemp, Granderson, Austin Jackson, Adam Jones, McCutchen, Jay or Michael Bourn?

 

And which one of those CFers are realistically available to the White Sox?

Well, Josh Hamilton is a free agent after this year...

Well, Josh Hamilton is a free agent after this year...

 

Josh would love all the nightlife in Chicago.

Here's some perspective for everybody who is dissatisfied with de Aza's performance: The Red Sox recently traded for Scott Podsednik.

Rios is a better CF'er than De Aza, switch them.

Rios is a better CF'er than De Aza, switch them.

 

Rios was much worse out there.

Rios was much worse out there.

Rios in 2010 was actually an improvement out there, but Rios in 2011 was not, and Rios's bat has somewhat recovered while playing in RF as well. This would be one of those "you'd be nuts to mess with it after how badly things screwed up last time" scenarios.

Rios in 2010 was actually an improvement out there, but Rios in 2011 was not, and Rios's bat has somewhat recovered while playing in RF as well. This would be one of those "you'd be nuts to mess with it after how badly things screwed up last time" scenarios.

 

Exactly.

Rios is a better CF'er than De Aza, switch them.

 

Did you watch Rios play CF at all last season? Seriously?

 

Did you get tired of picking on Viciedo so the new target is DeAza? Why not Morel or Nestor Molina?

 

Shouldn't Dave Dombrowski get fired if the Tigers don't win the AL Central this season?

He can't play CF and he can't hit lefties. Let him put up that OPS at a corner OF spot.

So you'd rather have an average-hitting, exceptional defensive corner outfielder platooning than an exceptional-hitting, average defensive CF?

 

That's in a vacuum, not considering that we'd have to find an alternative (i.e. Rios). As everyone else has said, Rios was AAAWFUL last year, and I think you know that. Go ahead, give me sample size as an excuse and I'll hand it right back to you.

 

Marty, this is a ridiculous position to take. We have a handful of legitimate MLB hitters and you're somehow finding a way to criticize one of them. Attention should be paid elsewhere if you have a problem with team makeup.

Did you watch Rios play CF at all last season? Seriously?

 

Did you get tired of picking on Viciedo so the new target is DeAza? Why not Morel or Nestor Molina?

 

Shouldn't Dave Dombrowski get fired if the Tigers don't win the AL Central this season?

 

Rios is a better CF'er than De Aza and I like Dave Dombrowski.

Rios is a better CF'er than De Aza and I like Dave Dombrowski.

So your answer is no, you didn't watch Rios play CF, or baseball at all, last year. Thanks for clearing that up.

So you'd rather have an average-hitting, exceptional defensive corner outfielder platooning than an exceptional-hitting, average defensive CF?

 

That's in a vacuum, not considering that we'd have to find an alternative (i.e. Rios). As everyone else has said, Rios was AAAWFUL last year, and I think you know that. Go ahead, give me sample size as an excuse and I'll hand it right back to you.

 

Marty, this is a ridiculous position to take. We have a handful of legitimate MLB hitters and you're somehow finding a way to criticize one of them. Attention should be paid elsewhere if you have a problem with team makeup.

 

I guess I did criticize De Aza as a hitter by saying he can't lefties, but that is the truth. The other criticism about his fielding has nothing to do with him as a hitter.

Edited May 15, 201213 yr by Marty34

The question to ask is whether or not the Sox would be better with De Aza in LF, Rios in CF and Viciedo in RF. I don't necessarily think it would make too big of a difference, so I think for the long term, you let De Aza play in CF and hope he can be your CF even after Rios' contract expires.

The question to ask is whether or not the Sox would be better with De Aza in LF, Rios in CF and Viciedo in RF. I don't necessarily think it would make too big of a difference, so I think for the long term, you let De Aza play in CF and hope he can be your CF even after Rios' contract expires.

 

De Aza is 28 I don't know that he'll be on the roster by the time Rios contract is up, much less be the CF'er.

 

De Aza is 28 I don't know that he'll be on the roster by the time Rios contract is up, much less be the CF'er.

Considering he's going to be fairly cheap for a while, if he continues to hit, he'll probably be on the roster.

Considering he's going to be fairly cheap for a while, if he continues to hit, he'll probably be on the roster.

 

And if he doesn't continue to hit?

And if he doesn't continue to hit?

Then thankfully it doesn't cost us anything to remove him. What kind of silly statement is that?

And if he doesn't continue to hit?

Just like everyone else who isn't guaranteed a ton of money, if you don't perform, you wind up doing something else.

I know, KW acquired him so he has to suck. Everyone sucks. Why even play the games.

Then thankfully it doesn't cost us anything to remove him. What kind of silly statement is that?

 

It was in reply to Dick Allen's silly statement.

It was in reply to Dick Allen's silly statement.

Which was in reply to your silly statement. There are some really miserable people on this board. Nothing pisses them off more than White Sox baseball so they never miss a game.

Just like everyone else who isn't guaranteed a ton of money, if you don't perform, you wind up doing something else.

I know, KW acquired him so he has to suck. Everyone sucks. Why even play the games.

 

Your reply was "Captain Obvious". If he continues to hit he'll be on the team when he's 32.

Your reply was "Captain Obvious". If he continues to hit he'll be on the team when he's 32.

Then why does his age have anything to do with anything?

Then why does his age have anything to do with anything?

 

What are the chances he continues to hit at 32?

What are the chances he continues to hit at 32?

If he doesn't get hurt, I'd say they're very good. Guys don't drop off when they hit 32, they may slowly start to tail downwards after that age, but there's no brick wall, and there's plenty of hitters who learn more as they go on and keep getting better.

 

His speed may be weakening by 32 and pushing him towards a corner OF spot, but the kid is flat out hitting, and that doesn't just vanish outside of big contract guys who shift to the AL.