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2013 in a nutshell

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Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin 5m

 

The ugly: White Sox have been swept in a series at least once by each team in the AL Central and by nine separate teams overall

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Daryl Van Schouwen ‏@CST_soxvan 6m

 

White Sox starters rank 4th in AL in ERA (3.87). Their collective ERA has improved over course of 10-game losing streak.

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Jeff Nuich ‏@JeffNuich 1h

 

OFFICIAL: @CSNChicago scored its 2nd highest #WhiteSox TV rtg of the season last night (3.09 avg, 7-10:30p CT); home opener vs. KC 3.42 avg

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Daryl Van Schouwen ‏@CST_soxvan 1h

 

Alexei Ramirez error in Cleve on 7/30 changed to hit for Santana, puts 3 earned runs on Rienzo, raises ERA from 2.95 to 4.42.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 19, 2013 -> 10:42 AM)
Interesting read for two factoids... #1 the Sox are last in MLB in OPS in losses. #2, they actually have two players who are putting up better numbers when they lose, versus when they win.

 

http://www.southsidesox.com/2013/9/19/4747...liant-in-defeat

 

But, but, Adam Dunn only hits well when the Sox are losing right?

 

Kinda on that same line of thinking another interesting note was brought up in the comments....

 

alex rios win/loss split (career)

 

.315 .364 .518 .882 (w)

.241 .284 .366 .650 (l)

 

for some reason i thought that rios was tagged with the ‘only plays well while losing’

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QUOTE (scs787 @ Sep 19, 2013 -> 12:14 PM)
But, but, Adam Dunn only hits well when the Sox are losing right?

 

Kinda on that same line of thinking another interesting note was brought up in the comments....

I don't know who said that, but generally the vast majority of players play better in wins. It's sort of why the team wins.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 19, 2013 -> 01:16 PM)
I don't know who said that, but generally the vast majority of players play better in wins. It's sort of why the team wins.

 

The Dunn only playing well when the teams losing, because "he's a loser", has been brought up on several occasions by the Dunn bashers.

 

I believe Rios was dumped into the "loser" category as well though I can't say that for sure.

“@CST_soxvan: White Sox would be first team since 1915 Philadelphia A's to have worst fielding pct in baseball the year after leading majors.”

QUOTE (scs787 @ Sep 19, 2013 -> 08:02 PM)
The Dunn only playing well when the teams losing, because "he's a loser", has been brought up on several occasions by the Dunn bashers.

 

I believe Rios was dumped into the "loser" category as well though I can't say that for sure.

 

I don't think he's a "loser" per se, I think he is a stupid hitter, I really do.

Here's my reasoning. The man has the power to hit home runs to left field and left center and center as well as right.

Yet, except for that 1-2 week stretch where he received some positive publicity for getting some hits to left field, he tries to pull everything. You see what kind of hitter he is when he tries to pull everything, quite frankly that version of Adam Dunn is one of the worst hitters in Sox franchise history. The Dunn who sees the pitch and drills it to center and left center and even left is not so bad. I guess when you are big and strong you try to pull everything which is really really stupid.

He's at .219 I believe and falling closer to that .200, .195 mark we know and love in April and May with Adam Dunn.

In my perfect world, Adam Dunn elevates the pitch to all fields, but does not ever forget that leftcenter is his friend.

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 24, 2013 -> 09:59 PM)
I don't think he's a "loser" per se, I think he is a stupid hitter, I really do.

Here's my reasoning. The man has the power to hit home runs to left field and left center and center as well as right.

Yet, except for that 1-2 week stretch where he received some positive publicity for getting some hits to left field, he tries to pull everything. You see what kind of hitter he is when he tries to pull everything, quite frankly that version of Adam Dunn is one of the worst hitters in Sox franchise history. The Dunn who sees the pitch and drills it to center and left center and even left is not so bad. I guess when you are big and strong you try to pull everything which is really really stupid.

He's at .219 I believe and falling closer to that .200, .195 mark we know and love in April and May with Adam Dunn.

In my perfect world, Adam Dunn elevates the pitch to all fields, but does not ever forget that leftcenter is his friend.

 

I get your displeasure but he's simply just that, a dead pull hitter. Changing his approach may turn him into a batter who hits for a higher average but it may come at the sacrifice to his power, which is what makes him so productive.

 

Some of the greatest hitters of all time were pull hitters. Ted Williams, Harmon Killebrew, Mickey Mantle Mel Ott, Barry Bonds, and the man who just hit a walk off today The Great Giambino to name a few(at least from what I've read).

 

I'm certainly not saying he's in those guys leagues but simply saying that being a "Dead pull hitter" is nothing new to the game.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 24, 2013 -> 07:50 PM)
“@CST_soxvan: White Sox would be first team since 1915 Philadelphia A's to have worst fielding pct in baseball the year after leading majors.”

 

Which is just amazing when the team is pretty much the same team as last year, at least until the trade deadline.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 25, 2013 -> 09:46 AM)
Which is just amazing when the team is pretty much the same team as last year, at least until the trade deadline.

It really wasn't the same. New C. New 3B. Dunn at 1B a lot more. Beckham missing at 2B in the first half for a decent stretch. The OF was the same, but Viciedo was what he always has been, as was Rios. The only differences were De Aza regressed tremendously both defensively and with his baserunning, and Alexei's head wasn't in the game (which isn't something new) more often. Perhaps a result of the games being meaningless.

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Fornelli ‏@SouthSideAsylum 22m

 

Of all position players to play in at least 50 games, six had a negative WAR. The worst was Keppinger at -2.0. Paulie finished at -1.5.

 

Alexei Ramirez was the only position player worth more than 1.0 WAR. Alex Rios was at 1.0 exactly. Then Beckham at 0.8.

 

Of position players to finish the season with the White Sox, Marcus Semien was third on the team in WAR. At 0.6. Won't miss you, 2013.

 

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 1, 2013 -> 10:21 AM)
Fornelli ‏@SouthSideAsylum 22m

 

Of all position players to play in at least 50 games, six had a negative WAR. The worst was Keppinger at -2.0. Paulie finished at -1.5.

 

Alexei Ramirez was the only position player worth more than 1.0 WAR. Alex Rios was at 1.0 exactly. Then Beckham at 0.8.

 

Of position players to finish the season with the White Sox, Marcus Semien was third on the team in WAR. At 0.6. Won't miss you, 2013.

 

This is bWAR

 

Sox leaders in fWAR:

Ramirez - 3.1

De Aza - 2.2

Rios - 2.0

Beckham - 1.0

Gillaspie - 0.7

Gimenez - 0.2

Semien - 0.1

Wise - 0.1

JorDanks - 0.0

 

That's all the Sox had for non-negative fWARs offensively (minus pitchers as hitters)

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The Sox didn't even qualify a guy in the top 3 for the Gold Gloves this year.

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