EJax did pretty well here under Coop & we need another righty.

 

So here's my crazy 3-way trade idea:

 

Sox send out Danks and Beckham to the Yankees, take back Edwin Jackson from the Cubs

 

Cubs send us a good prospect and a RP or something to dump Jackson's salary

 

The Yankees send us Murphy and a low level arm

 

We send a fairly insignificant piece back to the Cubs for PR reasons/effect (i.e. the formula of the typical salary dump deal, you get your Brandon Hynick and you act like you are happy about it)

 

So in summation: we basically swap Danks for EJax and pick up prospects.... does this work? It seems like EJax has very little trade value and the Cubs want to dump him, whereas Danks may have some little bit of trade value and we do not have to dump him. So we just swap the 2 contracts and get prospects for doing so, and balance the L-R part of our rotation in anticipation of Rodon.

My idea is all under the assumption that the Cubs need to dump Jackson to the point where they'd give up prospects. If their intention is to eat as much as they have to and in effect buy a prospect then it can't work.

 

Also I expect that this idea is also terrible.

NO NO NO NO

I'd rather have Edwin than Danks. Sign me up.

I'd rather have Edwin than Danks. Sign me up.

 

Did John Danks kick your dog or something? Snubbed an autograph request?

 

EJ quality starts- 5

Danks-14 (in 1 less start btw)

Edited July 19, 201411 yr by scs787

Did John Danks kick your dog or something? Snubbed an autograph request?

 

EJ quality starts- 5

Danks-14

If we had EJax and the Cubs had Danks I'd probably propose the same scenario in a different way as long as it had us getting prospects.

 

I just want to make trades, that's all.

 

Just make trades.

 

Lots and lots and lots of trades.

If we had EJax and the Cubs had Danks I'd probably propose the same scenario in a different way as long as it had us getting prospects.

 

I just want to make trades, that's all.

 

Just make trades.

 

Lots and lots and lots of trades.

 

Your scenario wouldn't be THAT bad depending on what prospects they get back.

 

My last post was just directed at the clown who may have a Danks turd floating around in his cereal bowl.

Put in it's simplest form, let's say there is a way we can swap Danks' contract for EJax's deal in a way that has us receiving 2 prospects both of which would rank in our Top 15 and one of which would rank in the Top 9-10 of our system. If such a scenario exists, would you pull the trigger on that, especially given our need to (at least eventually) clear a spot for Rodon under the most likely scenario of our org planning for a 3-lefty rotation?

Edited July 19, 201411 yr by The Ultimate Champion

Also would anyone give up a decent prospect if the Cubs gave us EJax at something like $5-6M per?

 

I would give the Cubs some spare parts for salary relief, but they'd probably want something like Semien, and I'd say no.

NO NO NO NO

This right here.

 

Jax is a downgrade from Danks. Enough said.

This year, Edwin Jackson has an FIP of 4.27, with an xFIP of 3.95 going forward. Also has a K rate of 8.13 and an average fastball of 93 mph.

 

Danks has an FIP of 4.60, with an xFIP of 4.75. He doesn't throw hard enough to break a plane of glass (88 average fastball).

 

I'd rather have Edwin, and it's not particularly close.

 

This is all an exercise anyway; Cooper doesn't like Edwin, so that's that.

 

If you guys don't buy these stats, that's fine. But other GMs are aware of them. And that's why we aren't going to get s*** for Danks.

My idea is all under the assumption that the Cubs need to dump Jackson to the point where they'd give up prospects. If their intention is to eat as much as they have to and in effect buy a prospect then it can't work.

 

Also I expect that this idea is also terrible.

 

Dan Bernstein, is that you?

Dan Bernstein, is that you?

I may not be Dan Bernstein but I bet my input is equally as useful ... you know I was going to follow this statement with a baghead emoticon but to my utter shock the baghead emoticon is GONE

 

WTF?!?!?!

 

I just wanna know riught now, how in the f*** is this site supposed to operate without a baghead emoticon ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING the type of season we're enduring?

 

I am completely at a loss. I see this smiley guy holding a UK flag, why? I mean I get why you'd want to add the look at me titties emoticon but NOT at the expense of the baghead emoticon!!

 

Trhis is completly ridiculous IMO.

This right here.

 

Jax is a downgrade from Danks. Enough said.

I agrtee, but wee are also a domwngrade from what you would call a good solid baseball team & so why not look at add prospects? But I agree though, that's the conundrum of any s***ty team, you want to get better, not worse, but sometimes you have to get worse now to get better later? Where do you draw the line? I dont know Roostifer, I really don't know.

I may not be Dan Bernstein but I bet my input is equally as useful ... you know I was going to follow this statement with a baghead emoticon but to my utter shock the baghead emoticon is GONE

Don't sell yourself short. The gunk I picked out of my eye this morning is more useful than Bernstein.

 

I agrtee, but wee are also a domwngrade from what you would call a good solid baseball team & so why not look at add prospects? But I agree though, that's the conundrum of any s***ty team, you want to get better, not worse, but sometimes you have to get worse now to get better later? Where do you draw the line? I dont know Roostifer, I really don't know.

I draw the line at Jax.

 

I kid I kid.

 

I like that your thinking outside the box and in fact that's what I like about ya TUC, you aren't afraid to throw some s*** at a wall and see what sticks. My line of thinking is Jax and Danks are close enough that I would rather keep what we have rather than going back to banging the old whore we used to bang. The Sox dumped that hagg for a reason right?

 

 

This year, Edwin Jackson has an FIP of 4.27, with an xFIP of 3.95 going forward. Also has a K rate of 8.13 and an average fastball of 93 mph.

 

Danks has an FIP of 4.60, with an xFIP of 4.75. He doesn't throw hard enough to break a plane of glass (88 average fastball).

 

I'd rather have Edwin, and it's not particularly close.

 

This is all an exercise anyway; Cooper doesn't like Edwin, so that's that.

 

If you guys don't buy these stats, that's fine. But other GMs are aware of them. And that's why we aren't going to get s*** for Danks.

 

Then you don't trade him.

 

 

I'd rather have Edwin than Danks. Sign me up.

 

I'm not a Danks guy but da fuk?

EJax did pretty well here under Coop & we need another righty.

 

So here's my crazy 3-way trade idea:

 

Sox send out Danks and Beckham to the Yankees, take back Edwin Jackson from the Cubs

 

Cubs send us a good prospect and a RP or something to dump Jackson's salary

 

The Yankees send us Murphy and a low level arm

 

We send a fairly insignificant piece back to the Cubs for PR reasons/effect (i.e. the formula of the typical salary dump deal, you get your Brandon Hynick and you act like you are happy about it)

 

So in summation: we basically swap Danks for EJax and pick up prospects.... does this work? It seems like EJax has very little trade value and the Cubs want to dump him, whereas Danks may have some little bit of trade value and we do not have to dump him. So we just swap the 2 contracts and get prospects for doing so, and balance the L-R part of our rotation in anticipation of Rodon.

Jackson is terrible.

Just take Danks for JR Murphy and a low level arm and I'll do a dance.

EJax did pretty well here under Coop & we need another righty.

 

So here's my crazy 3-way trade idea:

 

Sox send out Danks and Beckham to the Yankees, take back Edwin Jackson from the Cubs

 

Cubs send us a good prospect and a RP or something to dump Jackson's salary

 

The Yankees send us Murphy and a low level arm

 

We send a fairly insignificant piece back to the Cubs for PR reasons/effect (i.e. the formula of the typical salary dump deal, you get your Brandon Hynick and you act like you are happy about it)

 

So in summation: we basically swap Danks for EJax and pick up prospects.... does this work? It seems like EJax has very little trade value and the Cubs want to dump him, whereas Danks may have some little bit of trade value and we do not have to dump him. So we just swap the 2 contracts and get prospects for doing so, and balance the L-R part of our rotation in anticipation of Rodon.

 

Don't we have enough pitchers that don't throw strikes consistently

Don't we have enough pitchers that don't throw strikes consistently

 

Yep. Like Danks and his 3.46 BBs/9.

Yep. Like Danks and his 3.46 BBs/9.

Or like Jackson's 4.0 BB/9 ?

If youre going to cherry pick, at least cherry pick the stats that support your argument and not others.

Or like Jackson's 4.0 BB/9 ?

If youre going to cherry pick, at least cherry pick the stats that support your argument and not others.

 

Can you tell me something that Danks actually does well, other than having a horseshoe up his ass?

Can you tell me something that Danks actually does well, other than having a horseshoe up his ass?

 

I'll take the horseshoe over Jackson anytime.

 

So your solution is bring a guy back that we couldn't wait to show the door? Just plain dumb.

 

I'm not against getting rid of Danks, but the point is to improve which Jackson does not do.

Sox need to trade Danks if they can get some value.

The Sox have absolutely no place for Edwin Jackson