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Parque and Sirotka

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If JM didn't screw up in the 2000 playoffs with those two, and the wells and ritchie trade never happened, don't you think the rotation would have been interesting?

Starting Rotation

Colon

Buerhle

Parque

Sirotka

Loaiza

BP-Garland, Koch, Wright, Wells, Fogg, Marte, Schoenweis, Sullivan, Wunsch...

we never would have had E-Lo and Colon in the 1st place then!

Anybody have any idea how Sirotka did this year?

Did he pitch at all?

I have not heard ONE WORD about him this year.

I liked him a lot and I really hope he can come back, EVEN if it's for the Lovable Losers.

If JM didn't screw up in the 2000 playoffs with those two, and the wells and ritchie trade never happened, don't you think the rotation would have been interesting?

Starting Rotation

Colon

Buerhle

Parque

Sirotka

Loaiza

BP-Garland, Koch, Wright, Garland, Marte, Schoenweis, Sullivan, Wunsch...

WHy would we want those two losers in our rotation??

and i doubt we would have 2 garlands and maybe none of these other deals would have happened... i like it better without parque but i hope the best for sirotka

Heck, why not bring up Wilson Alvarez who has the best ERA in the majors in the 2nd half of the season.

 

In all seriousness, Parque and Sirotka were gonna get injured. Siro was injured because he went to Japan and Parque got injured for whatever reason. Parque was never overworked or anything.

Heck, why not bring up Wilson Alvarez who has the best ERA in the majors in the 2nd half of the season.

 

In all seriousness, Parque and Sirotka were gonna get injured.  Siro was injured because he went to Japan and Parque got injured for whatever reason.  Parque was never overworked or anything.

I feel bad for Sirotka cause he was my fav starter on the 2000 team. I wish him the best, wherever he ends up.

If JM didn't screw up in the 2000 playoffs with those two, and the wells and ritchie trade never happened

Now how in hell can you remotely blame JM for anything with Parque and Sirotka? How in hell can you do that?

i checked the baseball america website

 

i don't think sirotka pitched for the third straight year

 

always liked him -- a lot.

 

hope he comes back somewhere.

 

never wanted to see him leave, especially for Phat Man Wells.

Um did you watch the 2000 playoffs?? Parque and Sirotka and Baldwin for that matter pitched their asses off. JM didn't screw anything up in the ALDS as far as I'm concerned. The offense just choked.

Um did you watch the 2000 playoffs?? Parque and Sirotka and Baldwin for that matter pitched their asses off.  JM didn't screw anything up in the ALDS as far as I'm concerned.  The offense just choked.

DK, I might just write you into my will for that post...

 

 

 

and nuke, I met Parque, thought he was a great guy - in I were in a fight, he'd be the eone person I could count on to keep battling despite the odds - all the parque haters (which I don't understand) will come out now but I liked the guy's attitude. He was no quitter.

 

And Sirotka - always liked him too -

 

felt really bad we lost both of them but if the D Wells trade hadn't happened, what makes anyone think Siro would still be pitching, or parque for that matter?

Seems like evereyone really liked Sirotka....

yeah, I think everyone did/does like Siro - he was a hard working player who had success and as likable in a low key way player as we ever had

I do miss Siro. He was a gutsy guy who didn't have the most talent in the world, but that didn't slow him down for a second.

I remember him pitching like a complete game where he gave up one run on two hits, and i don't think it was earned, against Pedro and lost. He gave his all every time he went out there.

i was at that game Siro pitched

 

it was in late August at Fenway on a Sunday afternoon.

 

I believe the run was unearned because of a -- believe it or not -- Valentin error.

 

Sox had a chance to score in the ninth, but couldn't get a big hit.

 

Von Joshua got tossed because he laid a towel down in the dugout to show John Hirshbeck how wide his strike zone was.

 

Siro literally gave his career to the Sox. Pitched lotso innings. Pitched hurt in the Division series against Seattle.

 

The pitching was actually pretty good against Seattle, considering Parque, Baldwin, Sirotka and Eldred all were sore or shut down. Foulke gave it up in one game in Comiskey as I remember.

 

And the offense was a total no-show.

 

TOTAL.

 

Three full years on the sidelines tells me Sirotka will need a miracle to come back.

Jose Rijo made it back last year.... :huh: so I still think Siro has a chance

i was at that game Siro pitched

 

it was in late August at Fenway on a Sunday afternoon.

 

I believe the run was unearned because of a -- believe it or not -- Valentin error.

 

Sox had a chance to score in the ninth, but couldn't get a big hit.

 

Von Joshua got tossed because he laid a towel down in the dugout to show John Hirshbeck how wide his strike zone was.

 

Siro literally gave his career to the Sox. Pitched lotso innings. Pitched hurt in the Division series against Seattle.

 

The pitching was actually pretty good against Seattle, considering Parque, Baldwin, Sirotka and Eldred all were sore or shut down. Foulke gave it up in one game in Comiskey as I remember.

 

And the offense was a total no-show.

 

TOTAL.

 

Three full years on the sidelines tells me Sirotka will need a miracle to come back.

CHI WHITE SOX (0) VS BOSTON (1) - FINAL

 

 

CHI WHITE SOX ab r h rbi bb so lob avg

Durham 2b 4 0 0 0 0 1 0 .286

Jose Valentin ss 4 0 1 0 0 2 0 .271

F Thomas dh 4 0 0 0 0 2 1 .336

M Ordonez rf 4 0 1 0 0 1 0 .330

Konerko 1b 3 0 1 0 0 2 1 .302

Singleton cf 4 0 2 0 0 0 2 .265

Ca Lee lf 4 0 1 0 0 2 3 .294

H Perry 3b 3 0 0 0 0 3 4 .304

Ml Johnson c 2 0 0 0 0 1 0 .221

a-B Fordyce ph-c 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 .245

 

 

Totals 33 0 6 0 0 15 11

 

 

a-struck out for Ml Johnson in the 8th.

 

 

BATTING: 2B - M Ordonez (23, P Martinez). Runners left in

scoring position, 2 out - H Perry 2, Ca Lee 1. Team LOB - 7.

 

 

FIELDING: E - Jose Valentin (25, throw). DP: 1 (H Perry-Durham-Konerko).

 

 

BOSTON ab r h rbi bb so lob avg

D Lewis cf 2 0 0 0 1 0 0 .240

Daubach 1b 4 0 2 0 0 1 1 .278

N Garciaparra ss 3 0 0 0 1 1 0 .391

Sprague 3b 4 0 0 0 0 0 5 .190

Oleary lf 3 0 0 0 0 1 0 .264

Alcantara dh 3 1 1 0 0 0 0 .391

Varitek c 3 0 1 1 0 1 0 .270

Gilkey rf 3 0 0 0 0 0 2 .250

Alexander 2b 3 0 1 0 0 0 0 .205

 

 

Totals 28 1 5 1 2 4 8

 

 

BATTING: 2B - Daubach (22, Sirotka). S - D Lewis. RBI - Varitek

(40). Runners left in scoring position, 2 out - Sprague 4,

Gilkey 1. GIDP - Gilkey. Team LOB - 6.

 

 

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Chi White Sox - 000 000 000 -- 0

Boston - 000 100 00X -- 1

 

 

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CHI WHITE SOX ip h r er bb so hr era

Sirotka (L, 9-8) 8 5 1 0 2 4 0 3.72

 

 

BOSTON ip h r er bb so hr era

P Martinez (W, 11-3) 9 6 0 0 0 15 0 1.38

 

 

IBB - N Garciaparra (by Sirotka). HBP - Konerko (by P Martinez).

Pitches-strikes: P Martinez 131-95; Sirotka 125-78. Ground balls-fly balls:

P Martinez 4-8; Sirotka 14-6. Batters faced: P Martinez 34; Sirotka 31.

 

 

UMPIRES: HP--Brian Onora. 1B--Dan Iassogna. 2B--Mark Hirschbeck.

3B--Wally Bell. EJECTIONS: CHI WHITE SOX manager J Manuel by Onora (8th),

CHI WHITE SOX coach Joshua by Bell (8th).

T--2:28. Att--33,224. Weather: 78 degrees, clear. Wind: 12 mph,

left to right.

 

How They Scored

 

CHI WHITE SOX (0) AT BOSTON (1) - HOW THEY SCORED

 

BOSTON 4TH: Oleary flied out to center. Alcantara safe at second

on shortstop Jose Valentin's throwing error. Varitek singled to

center, Alcantara scored. Gilkey grounded into double play,

third to second to first, Varitek out at second. CHI WHITE SOX 0,

BOSTON 1.

If JM didn't screw up in the 2000 playoffs with those two, and the wells and ritchie trade never happened, don't you think the rotation would have been interesting?

Starting Rotation

Colon

Buerhle

Parque

Sirotka

Loaiza

BP-Garland, Koch, Wright, Wells, Fogg, Marte, Schoenweis, Sullivan, Wunsch...

Wells is the Pen?? NOT!!! Sirotka and Parque were Hurt. I think Parque will probably get another chance as a situational Lefty. Or Maybe he'll go to Japan, Taiwan or the Mexican league

If JM didn't screw up in the 2000 playoffs

 

wsc....weren't you like 7 in 2000? :D

If JM didn't screw up in the 2000 playoffs with those two, and the wells and ritchie trade never happened, don't you think the rotation would have been interesting?

Starting Rotation

Colon

Buerhle

Parque

Sirotka

Loaiza

BP-Garland, Koch, Wright, Wells, Fogg, Marte, Schoenweis, Sullivan, Wunsch...

Are you playing with monopoly money? LMAO.....10 starting pitchers on your staff is interesting though. :rolleyes:

wsc....weren't you like 7 in 2000? :D

No he is 7 NOW...

Parque was never overworked or anything.

That's because he was never able to get past the 5th or 6th inning :bang

wsc....weren't you like 7 in 2000? :D

No he is 7 NOW...

:lol: Cheap Shot, I love it.

all the parque haters (which I don't understand) will come out now but I liked the guy's attitude. He was no quitter.

The Parque-haters have been vocal for awhile now cw. Butter really turned off alot of fans when the Sun-Times printed that Butter-b****-Fest when he was in the White Sox minor league system. Butter's, "whoa is me..... I've done everything they wanted me to, but I'm still in the minor leagues when I should be in the Major Leagues, what else do I have to do?", while only being able to go 5-6 innings in the minor leagues with an astronomical ERA", pissed off alot of Sox fans. Then to come up here and get OWNED by Cameron when he's "ready"? Most Sox fans said, "f*** him" after that. I know I did.

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