Nobody has ever blamed the fans at all. Sure.

 

All we hear about is 2012.

 

Once again, what franchises that haven't made the playoffs for seven years running have perfectly contented fanbases?

 

 

I banned myself from WSI because those mods there are condescending ---holes. They banned my best friend for criticizing their abhorrent taste in music, of all things.

 

it is the mods the can ruin a sport forum site..... cough cough

Keep in mind to "pay" for a $10 million a year player with new ticket sales, the White Sox would have to sell about 2500 top of the line full season tickets.

 

There aren't 2500 top of the line seats that aren't accounted for.

Keep in mind to "pay" for a $10 million a year player with new ticket sales, the White Sox would have to sell about 2500 top of the line full season tickets.

 

There aren't 2500 top of the line seats that aren't accounted for.

 

now we are going to deal with the financial part of this..... that subject has been been to death, esp from me. but that has nothing to do with this conversation.

 

btw, on a side note, i always like to debate the finance of this org, i am not taking a cheap way out of this topic.

Caulfield, I'm calling Sox fans fickle because they are. The excuses are endless and I'd rather not get into it. I know because I live here and hear the s*** every day. The team is bad. It's cold. It's hard to get to the stadium. There's nothing to do after. It's dangerous. Reinsdorf is cheap. It's too expensive. I'll wait until July to see where they are in the standings. The atmosphere isn't great. Those are just some reasons and they are nonsense. This team doesn't draw when they are good either. It's just the way it is. I'm out there 10-15 times a year and I enjoy my Tuesday nights when the beer and brat lines are short. I'm not complaining that they don't act like a big market team though and making up excuses to not go to the ballpark.

Caulfield, I'm calling Sox fans fickle because they are. The excuses are endless and I'd rather not get into it. I know because I live here and hear the s*** every day. The team is bad. It's cold. It's hard to get to the stadium. There's nothing to do after. It's dangerous. Reinsdorf is cheap. It's too expensive. I'll wait until July to see where they are in the standings. The atmosphere isn't great. Those are just some reasons and they are nonsense. This team doesn't draw when they are good either. It's just the way it is. I'm out there 10-15 times a year and I enjoy my Tuesday nights when the beer and brat lines are short. I'm not complaining that they don't act like a big market team though and making up excuses to not go to the ballpark.

 

ahhh then you are a rarity, a true sox fan. i do love my beer and brat. but i hear there is no more old style. agh.

 

but you do make a point. i wonder if they are true sox fans. those true sox fans goes there on the day when its soo cold, they are there to watch a game even some fans who are crazy one like my cuz who takes his shirt off to show a design painted sox emblem.

 

people will complain no matter what.

Edited December 16, 201510 yr by LDF

This was a really really great read. I don't really have any counterpoints and agree with what you put together. I do think moving Q and Robertson is the right move (vs. standing pat). I just can't support standing pat.

Getting back to the article (great piece, by the way) and especially the final points:

 

1. On trading Quintana—boy would that be a tough blow. The Dodgers have some depth in their system and the need for quality pitching. We had better be getting back 2 or 3 quality players who could contribute late 2016 or 2017 at the latest.

 

2. On trading Robertson—I don't think he would bring back much, but if someone wants him for a good prospect, let him go.

 

3. Staying away from free agents with compensation-picks attached—Say yes to Cespedes, no to Upton.

 

4. As far as professional international free agents, say yes to Jose Miguel Fernandez, no to Kenta Maeda. Maeda will want a no-trade clause, and we have a lot of young pitchers coming up. It doesn't make sense to tie up a mid-rotation spot to a long-term deal. As far as amateur international free agents, I don't see the White Sox breaking the rule the way the Cubs, Red Sox, Yankees, Dodgers, and others have. Jerry Reinsdorf helped implement the international amateur free agent system that's in place, and with the CBA expiring on Dec 1, 2016, I doubt that the White Sox will want to hamstring themselves before they know what is going to happen with repeat to carry-over penalties for violating the int'l signing rules this season.

 

5. Signing mid-level free-agents with the idea of flipping them at the trade deadline—that is where we messed up with the Shark deal. And signing mid-level free-agents may hamper the development of young players. Do we sign a mid-level RH reliever or do we bring up Frankie Montas to get the same exposure next year that Chris Sale got in 2011? I'd opt for the latter.

 

6. Develop the youngsters—AMEN to that.