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36 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:
How so? From a value perspective, Duran and Ortiz are comparable. Porter and Hall are comparable. It all depends on how you value Leiter. I’d say he’s at least equal in value to the #64 draft pick, probably even better.
I said a much lowered ask. This board would have been apoplectic at that deal in November now it’s like “oh it’s just like the Ortiz deal cool”
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11 minutes ago, baseball_gal_aly said:
The Burnes package was better than the rumored Texas package.
Yeah I was going to say… this is a much much lowered ask
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12 hours ago, Chisoxfn said:
In fairness - I have no idea if he was ever worth a 2nd or not. But when I see Wentz traded multiple times and Sam D'Arnold for something, it makes me assume Field(s) has to be worth that. Cause the raw physical skills are tremendous and he's a good hard working individual. But I also get it - teams don't just hand over draft capital. Maybe after Day 1 of the draft there is a team who misses out and decides to pay up for him - maybe its a 3rd this year and like a conditional pick next year - I don't know. I still hold out hope for if it is a 3rd they are getting one more pick. If it was a 2nd - I would have always been thrilled with that.
On inverse side - Burns just got a massive deal. I like the Sweat move more than what Giants did. But I am curious to see where Bears go next or what they do. Maybe Poles is just going to go after guys that don't hit on first couple days (which isn't necessarily a bad plan - albeit I really like Hunter and feel he is the right type of player to "splurge" on.
Wouldn't be shocked if they just go Armstead on a ST deal though.
Maybe what caught up with the bears is none of those trades - wentz, darnold, rosen, etc worked out at all so now league may be super skeptical on that growth path. ESP with 6 QBs in top 75 or so.
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Is it saving face for Poles or for Justin?
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2 minutes ago, T R U said:
Hey that's 2023 Pro Bowl QB Gardner Minshew you are talking about here.
For all the discussion of Fields passing, I do think the number one thing that teams don't want to deal with is possessions being DOA because he adds another 2-3 sacks per game. It just makes it really hard to be a high scoring offense with those kind of things happening.
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It's pretty wild. Minshew was essentially Justin Fields the passer but without Justin Fields the runner, and still they'd rather shell out $13 mill / year than trade for a guy making peanuts for a year.
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LMAO and seconds later it appears to have been leverage against Minshew, whom they just signed.
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literally shocked this is real haha
I'm not surprised Getsy would still work with Fields, but boy did it seem like the game of telephone among fake accounts. So annoying you can never tell.
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1 minute ago, WhiteSox2023 said:
Trade Fields to the Vikings. Who cares.
does not seem that the mcvay tree coaches are excited by him. Feel like chargers are more likely to trade for him.
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Not they day I wanted
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I just think Swift is not a smart ballplayer.
But whatever. Poles has a quota of one move i hate every fa period.
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people love the joke about the legal tampering period, and though it is probably different than what NFL intended, I think there is value to having a few days for publicly known agreements where players could see if they misjudged with their agents and still had opportunity to back out.
It isn't common, but if so, it allows a player who may be in their "one shot" at a big deal to evaluate. Their agent will get crunched, but it's their fault anyway.
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So bears basically punting on AH but the big news is their demand is apparently not to own their own stadium. They will contribute to a publicly funded one.
Some chatter about this being a missed opportunity for the mccaskeys but I dont see, as a bears fan, why I should care about their loss revenue in sucking money from gambling addicts in AH will truly affect the bears operations. The nfl is so shared now in its operating costs. The bears may well get a better deal in their power and revenue collected from the stadium (I.e. non bears events).
I was pro Arlington heights but honestly so grossed out by the ubiquitous of gambling now would much rather this than a franchise half owned by Ballys
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1 hour ago, Flash Tizzle said:
If Atlanta signs Cousins, it’s between Vikings and Broncos. Terrible. And you can guarantee, between those two teams and the Raiders, someone is moving up for McCarthy.
We may have to seriously consider trading him to be a backup QB. It’s not just a negotiating tactic, no one wants Fields. And if they are considering keeping him past the draft, it’ll be a disaster. “Wait until draft day,” “Wait until training camp,”Wait until the season when a starter goes down.” Unload the baggage and move on. We’re not going to pick up a 5th year option on him, so why have Fields playing disgruntled and looking over his shoulder?
Well, if cousins signs with falcons we are talking about teams paying for a back up and that opens up a lot more.
Just…you know. At backup prices.
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3 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said:
Given the franchise tag and what is out there and the expanding cap - this feels like a very fair deal on both sides. Hopefully he stays healthy and the improved on ball production (ie turnovers) continues.
I agree. Bears got around what they wanted AAV wise (7th highest cb salary), Jaylon gets to hang his hat on the guarantees. Both are real.
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Man Fields is getting absolutely trashed from all corners right now. Not looking good for a 2nd round pick.
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1 hour ago, Flash Tizzle said:
There’s lot of cope among Bears fans trying to explain why Poles traded a 5th round pick for Bates, who likely would have been cut from the Bills anyway.
What’s the most likely scenario here - Poles “got his guy” and wanted to act quickly before he hit the market? Or (I believe the more likely scenario) he was duped by the Bills trying to get something of value before cutting him.
Which, on its own isn’t a big deal - but my God some of the excuses and justifications is like Sox fans trying to rationalize overpaying for a utility infielder.
Could be, though I think Bates could be one of the few players that, if cut, would see a raise on the free agent market compared to their current deal. I'd guess that's where they pinned the value on it, guaranteed his rights plus at a contract they'd like. But they better be right about his evals...they weren't about patrick.
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Ekeler looked so slow last year.
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2 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said:
Who is he related to?
One of paddy’s friends probably
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is he actually good or just more nepo favors from Paddy
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this is probably all true but a secret great thing that could happen is yoan actually being good and doing a solid for us so we can recoup something.
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Giolito was my fav player during the rebuild. THis sucks.
Happy in one sense that it happened now vs last year. But clearly going to be brutal given this is #2.
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That's the thing. Jameis Winston is 100%, in my opinion, better than Mason Rudolph and Kenny Pickett. But he's not good enough and the upside isn't there.
I still think fields finds a spot, but I'm concerned given Getsy's job and the warm market for mooney, it really seems like the NFL is pointing at fields as the problem when most of the bears fan base believed it was his situation.
Cease To Padres per Passan
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They should go after Arias. I love the Yankees fit more than any other team. Multiple good packages.