WestEddy

The alternate caps/lower case phrase only really refers to the 2023-24 off-season. Robert then got injured in the third game of the 2024 season, was out 2 months, then came back diminished. We're all doing the same thing, which is trying to make sense of baseball conduct after the fact. I find it easier to believe that the front office is dealing with issues in a rational way rather than believing that a couple dozen career front office people operate in a constant haze of stupidity, and that even good moves are bad because reasons.

I believe that if there was a question of whether they'd be able to move Robert or not, they wouldn't have picked up the option.

I agree with you on the return. It would have been nice to get a package that was a little more exciting.

I get what you're saying, but having Robert on this team wasn't a catastrophic outcome. I think they could have always traded Robert for something that was better than being down $2M. The pool of players they were going to shop in was always the same. I don't think they missed out on anybody who signed while they were shopping Robert around.

I don't get that last part. He was saying that Pete Fairbanks was going to get somewhere in the $40M guaranteed range.

Except that the downside here isn't killing a family or getting a DUI but having a good defensive CF on your team for 4 months. You're saying they couldn't have traded Robert to the Reds, Pirates, Dodgers, Yankees for anything.

Getz is saying that the Sox are now going to be very busy.

I guess pretending that Chris Getz is secretly trying to impress you and only you is a better argument than pretending that everybody can see the future and judge the returns of a trade against what is waiting for them in 2 years. It's like the old Earl Weaver anecdote: "If you knew you were going to hit into a double-play why didn't you just strike out?"

But why is it "insane"? Here are the 2 choices: A) Pay $2 million, get nothing. B) Pay nothing, get two players. The more people criticize this deal, the more I think that Chris Getz won going away.

Because if they were getting offers that were below his value, why should they have taken a lesser offer? You're saying this while pretending that everyone saw the Acuña/Pauley deal sitting here in 2026. There was no urgency to trade Robert in that off-season. Looking back, we know that was when his value was highest. Should they trade Colson Montgomery right now and take the best offer because in 3 years, they might want to trade him but only be offered garbage because of that injury and slump he's going to have in 2028?

I would expect a full rebuild to take around 5 years. You are arguing that the Sox should have traded Robert for a substandard return after the 2023 season. Getz did just that with Cease, and you still scream about it. And really, Aaron Bummer wasn't a setup man at that point, and Gregory Santos was the guy who was napping in the bullpen.

I went back to look at your posts during the 2023-2024 offseason, but they only start around Christmas. I'm guessing you got banned under a previous moniker for screaming that the White Sox should have traded Robert, Yoan and Eloy right then, and nobody could handle how right you were. LOL.

And some here whined about the Crochet trade because Getz was only able to pry 2 of Boston's top 5 prospects away.

Yes. We do now. At the time? He was an All-Star with 4 years of cheap control.

Robert contributed a win and a half each of the last two years. Trading him certainly doesn't create a hole in the lineup.

I feel seen. Looks like I've pretty much had every take, so which one is the turn? I argue against the "Getz always fails" narrative. Yes, as we look back in the comfort of retrospect, we can ascertain the perfect moment to make the perfect move. I wish they got more for Robert. Is anybody claiming that Getz turned down a demonstrably better package for Robert because he's just plain stupid, and fell in love with a pile of garbage instead of opting for the higher ceiling alternative? This is most probably what Robert has been worth for over a year, now. I'm relieved we're not on injury watch.

No, Getz turned a diminished asset into a younger 84 RC+ version of himself. I'm not sure how to express that as an anal sex metaphor.

It was a mandate from the market. Nobody has any faith in Robert.

I guess this is due

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No, actually, they should have extended Robert after 2023 for 20 years at $40M per. Prove me wrong.

We basically traded Michael A. Taylor for a package. Learn to be happy.

"Last year" isn't "now".

Or, sending money didn't get them much more interest.

At least as a Harvard grad, he'll have a "high baseball IQ".