WestEddy

In all fairness to the mods, I think that when the string winds down to two dudes taking swipes at each other, they consider that everything that needs to be said about that game has been exhausted. I've been there many times, and on the bright side, you got the last word.

The White Sox players are such nice kids. Hate to embarrass the other team by just dominating and shutting them down for 9. Let everyone have some fun.

"Stanning for Getz" means not expressing crushing embarrassment over the Sox churning through 30 pitchers last year. Or just not agreeing with the guy saying that. I am interested to watch how a different approach plays out without being regularly challenged to become negative over a waiver wire claim not turning into a solid regular.

The proverbial hot potato. I envision a time where nobody's even paying attention to the game, anymore, just pushing baseball into each others' hands while posing.

I agree they should have signed Harper. I think that team still falls apart.

Wait, signing Harper would have made TA not drop off the table? Harper would have kept Yoan, Robert and Eloy healthy and on the field? Signing Harper would have made Wheeler's wife remember she also had family in Chicago?

Dude, if you're going to name check me, at least make a passing effort at making sense.

I'm not sure what you're assuming or why. Teel looked good in half a season. Are you saying he'll suck until 2030? When you say anything to get a dig in, you seldom make sense. The White Sox hadn't been investing in International, or in stateside development for years. Now they are. I'm not sure how that's a bad thing. They've been targeting players their internal people have a plan to develop or tweak in their trades. That's a good thing. The Crochet deal was a good trade. The trade was predicated on Crochet being injury-prone, and the Sox being in year one of a rebuild. Whether or not the Sox could afford Crochet during his time here was well down the list of reasons he was traded. Big picture, complaining about the Crochet return is insane. The Red Sox have a great minor league system. They dealt 2 great prospects and two other interesting, productive players, and didn't put a dent in their system. I'm not sure what else you wanted.

I'm confused. Are you saying the White Sox should scrap any attempt at developing baseball players? Please, do expound. And just a quick note, they've picked up players in trade, off the waiver wire, the Rule 5 draft, signed minor league and major league free agents, made tweaks to their games, as well as developing their own drafted and international prospects. I'm sure you're not saying that guys like Colson, Houser, Meidroth, Vasil, Shane Smith, and others will take 5 full years before they show any success?

.426 pct, roughly. 69 wins across 162.

Or really just a re-allocation of resources to development. Hahn is now saying he orchestrated his own firing. How is it we think that Getz is too stupid to breathe without setting reminder alarms on his phone, but is a mastermind in taking over an organization when he was basically 2 steps above peanut vendor?

I guess that because I like to remain anchored in reality, I'm a Chris Getz "defender". I will say, "Hey, Liptak, duck!! These flying pigs are really dangerous!!"

I know you're trying to turn an innocuous statement into a net negative, but in the game of baseball, you need guys to stand on the mound and pitch. It works better if they don't hurt their necks watching home runs fly out of the park every three pitches. So, yeah, guys get injured, and every trade doesn't turn into Fernando Tatis Jr. That's why, as we've established, it's good that the White Sox can create pitching out of waiver wire claims and projects. The White Sox do well at picking projects off the waiver wire or signing meh starters cheap and getting meaningful innings out of them. Those guys have run the gamut from Houser's ace-like presence through the hit and miss nature of Perez and Civale to Bryce Wilson's ineffectiveness. Teams who can't develop pitching would have traded somebody meaningful to get a proven commodity.

Nobody can. That's why it's good the Sox can create pitching when other teams have no hope of taking on a guy like Martin Perez, or Adrian Houser and keeping them on the straight and narrow.

ONe of these innings, they're going to score a baserunner.

If we don't get to measure "genuine progress" from a given point forward, then there is no such thing as progress. It doesn't matter if a child starts walking and talking, because you're omitting all the failure before a certain point. And it certainly makes sense that you only measure a single player's development by the team's win-loss record that includes games they weren't even on the team for. God, I wish I was as smart as some of the big brains, here.

No Ragrets.

At the ballpark called Rate Field Where the baseball players all meet There's a baseball player who eats Only fish heads and tails And he'll show you his teeth That have rotted too soon That can hit monster homers That can swallow the moon

Okay, let's put the fun back in funeral!

Just that example. Tell me how the hand-placement works. Show video, explain it, make me understand, then leave it alone for the rest of the week. because I now know. Maybe once every couple of weeks bring it up when Vargas is having a game? But mentioning it every game became a meme. They do these quickie at-bat recaps after a seven-pitch strikeout or whatnot, and Stone's voiceover is, "first pitch strike, then misses high, fouls off that high fastball..." It would be more helpful if Stone walked us through the pitch sequence and why they called a curveball on 3-1 because another pitch wasn't working, or whatnot. I would learn so much about the game from early Hawk & Wimpy, and it continued even through the late innings of a blowout. In a lost season. Does Schriff even do that? Once they killed the pirate link mid-season, I only followed on GameDay until September. Explaining why a pickoff move works or pointing out the positioning of an infielder and why. That's why I keep watching when the team sucks.

Benetti is special. He engaged Stone in ways that Hawk wouldn't, and Schrif doesn't seem to be able to. Stone is phoning it in, and maybe Schriffen has something to do with that. As you all know, I'll dig in and argue for the Sox employee I feel is being unfairly dragged, just because. And I kind of did that last year. I subscribed for this last full month, and while calling games for a god-awful, losing team in September must be the heaviest of lifts in the profession, Hawk & Wimpy had a banter that made the last weeks listenable. Schrif & Stone is like being driven to prison. I've tagged some commenters here, just because their insight is interesting. Stone is interesting, but I feel he needs to be prodded to a place where he's digging down and talking about the intricacies of the game. Benetti could do that. Schrif seems to be mostly limited to "two strikes, do you send the runner here?"

Being boring and going back to the well for the same tidbit about a player in every at-bat isn't a difference to be celebrated. The White Sox diverse employee pool is something I am very proud of my team for. That's one area I feel would be adequately considered if they were to move on from Schrif.

He has this lilt to his voice, where his tone curves up then down, like he's trying to force the excitement, brag about a solo HR to break up a shutout, 7-1. He brings nothing to the broadcast. The facts and insight, any of us could read off of a sheet. Benetti has the voice, knowledge, can speak to the moment. He's corny, but I found him very listenable. Schriffen is none of that.

Ramos was 1st added to the 40-man on November 15th, 2022, so they used options in 2023, 2024 and 2025. He will be out of options for 2026. That's on Hahn's skittishness of guys being taken out of high-A ball in the Rule 5.

How do we say goodbye to a team worth two series wins?