Everything posted by WestEddy
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Fire Chris Getz
There's only 30 of these jobs. The least attractive situations are entry level GM. The most attractive are chasing Dombrowski or Theo.
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Fire Chris Getz
Miguel Vargas ranked 13th in offensive fWAR on Fangraphs. Did the Sox DFA him right before the article?
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Let's look at the bright side - the Sox are going to have an absolute STAR in Caleb Bonemer
I don't know. I'm not married to the team. I root for them. I got tired of being mad all year, so I stopped paying attention to the Bears. I don't hang around on Bears' chat boards telling everyone how disappointed I am in the McCaskeys or whatnot.
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Let's look at the bright side - the Sox are going to have an absolute STAR in Caleb Bonemer
I suppose we both have different psychological motivations in forming an outlook.
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The Official Scoreboard watching thread
- Let's look at the bright side - the Sox are going to have an absolute STAR in Caleb Bonemer
You know, Caulfield, this whole, "tee-hee, I'm lying about what you just wrote" shtick gets old.- Let's look at the bright side - the Sox are going to have an absolute STAR in Caleb Bonemer
I'll root for wins, not payroll.- Let's look at the bright side - the Sox are going to have an absolute STAR in Caleb Bonemer
I don't actually feel like I predicted anything. I just didn't buy into the narrative that Getz sucked because he ran the organization as director of development. I'm happy to see the team find success, I hope they continue on an upward trajectory. 103 wins would be a nice 19-win progression for 3 straight seasons.- Let's look at the bright side - the Sox are going to have an absolute STAR in Caleb Bonemer
Bannister never worked for the Royals. Jirschele has nothing to do with the Royals org. He was drafted by the White Sox, retired, and started coaching for the White Sox. I suppose everyone in the White Sox front office acknowledge the existence of the Kansas City Royals, so you can put everyone on your list.- Let's look at the bright side - the Sox are going to have an absolute STAR in Caleb Bonemer
I don't really follow the Padres, so why would I have an insightful treatise on their recent history? You seem to be distracted by me naming the Padres in an example - from the greater point that I'm only doing the same analysis that everyone would give any team I decided to mock for their World Series Championship failures. If I brought up the Mariners (who have made the playoffs less than the White Sox in the last 7 years), there would be a resounding chorus of "Yeah, but..."s.- Let's look at the bright side - the Sox are going to have an absolute STAR in Caleb Bonemer
As far as how front offices conduct themselves, it's probably an entirely different game from 10-15 years ago. Nothing that happened in the late 1970s matters when discussing how a 3-year-old front office is operating today. Just looking at the last 36, Himes had 4 great #1 picks in a row. Schueller took over, and about half of his seasons were successful with that core of Thomas, Durham, Robin, Karko, Black Jack, A-Fern, Alvarez, Roberto Hernandez. KW rolled it over to Lee, Maggs, Valentin, and remnants of the White Flag trade. He kept the team mostly competitive in a period when a single wild card was in play. I don't know what "rebuilding the same mistakes" means. Do you mean that the team rebuilds, grows old, then crashes in cycles? Himes, Schueller, KW, Hahn and Getz all seem to be different styles of building a team. If you're just being cynical and saying everything's going to fail because White Sox, then you go on, then. They certainly seem to be aware of previous international failures, drafting and developmental shortcomings, an inability or neglect in supporting prospects once they hit the bigs and needed adjustments - and they seem to be addressing them. Again, if you feel that Reinsdorf is going to sabatoge everything so that it fails because he's cheap and wants to finish in 2nd place, you would have to give me some evidence that's happening right now beyond "but hey, White Sox, you know?"- What's next?...
I'm seeing people throw it out there on Twitter that the salary cap may just be a ploy to wear out the MLBPA for a few months, then offer up a floor for a tighter luxury tax. In that case, Castillo for 1 year may be a better risk than a FA for 4-5 years.- Let's look at the bright side - the Sox are going to have an absolute STAR in Caleb Bonemer
I understand. It's scary to play a thought experiment that steps outside your comfort zone of blaming, name-calling, moving the goalposts and making excuses. Really. Think about it. Maybe I'm not "making excuses". Maybe I just have the ability to put it all in perspective.- Let's look at the bright side - the Sox are going to have an absolute STAR in Caleb Bonemer
Or, you could just state your arguments without doing this questioning thing to make me type what you want to put out there, then scold me that "I'm not answering your question". Brian Cashman worked with the Yankees for 8 years before they promoted him to GM. He was hired because George Steinbrenner knew Cashman's dad. That seems pretty unwilling to mix it up and bring in differing opinions. Getz has just staffed the organization with multiple outside hires. So is that your crafty way of asking me if I think the Yankees' way of nepo-hiring from within is preferable to the White Sox way of hiring from outside? The Yankees' success shows that there was value in promoting from within. I feel that when an owner fires the exec-VP and GM on the same day during a 100-loss season, that says very loudly that he wants change. If Getz got in JR's ear and convinced him he could take over and not make any changes, the joke's on Reinsdorf, because this organization and team look a lot different from the 2023 version.- Let's look at the bright side - the Sox are going to have an absolute STAR in Caleb Bonemer
I would ask you which past administration they were blaming? Cashman has been GM for about 26 years. So, nice hypothetical, but that one's irrelevant. Maybe Yankee fans don't "make excuses", but I could probably count up the excuses made for the Guardians and Yankees here for not winning it all in the last decade(s) because "at least they've been there". Y'all kneel down before that string of not winning the big prize and worship it. I could mock the Dodgers for being on the verge of elimination, and a dozen posters would barrel in with their excuses. If I called for Cashman to be fired, y'all would excoriate me. It's amazing how many apologists the Astros, Guardians, Yankees, Padres all have here when I make fun of those teams. I'd guess you would call that perspective. You're not an avid fan of the Yanks, so you can see how they try to win, and how the playoffs is a crapshoot based on a single starting pitcher getting hot for two games, or a hitter going on a heater for a week. Now pretend I have perspective and can understand what Getz took over and how far this organization has come in 3 years.- Let's look at the bright side - the Sox are going to have an absolute STAR in Caleb Bonemer
With the resources the Yankees have, I would have expected them to go a little farther, or at least as far as the White Sox did in a bad year for the AL. Tampa is beatable. If we were fans of the Yankees here, I can only imagine the screaming about how everyone should be fired. The fact they didn't hit opening day with better options than Ryan McMahon, Anthony Volpe and Jasson Dominguez is shocking. There was a FA market last winter they could have participated in to create some heft in that lineup. They can't even keep their FA starting pitchers healthy. Just think of the stories that would be trotted out if we had Cole, Rodon and Fried missing 41 starts between them.- Let's look at the bright side - the Sox are going to have an absolute STAR in Caleb Bonemer
1) The Yankees had an ostentatious owner who wouldn't settle for losing for decades. He used the attractiveness of the NY market and it's larger revenue streams to sign the top FAs. Over the years they've developed an organizational philosophy to drafting and developing that is successful in areas, at times. They don't spend like they used to. They went to the World Series two years ago and have been to the playoffs 10 of the last 12 years, and haven't had a losing season since 1992. You mentioned "50+ years". In that time John Allyn and Bill Veeck couldn't afford to run a baseball team, and they almost relocated a couple of times. JR started out sinking money into the roster, then slowly pulled back. He will spend when they're competitive, sometimes not very intelligently. Ron Schueller parlayed 4 great drafts under Larry Himes into a successful decade. KW had an actual philosophy that we know didn't include "develop extensively from within". I think it's pretty evident Hahn and KW weren't on the same page. The focus of the draft was college guys who could move quickly. The Yankees are more successful internationally than the Sox. We know that, we know why, and it has little to do with development. The Yanks also had a philosophy on pitching for years which is successful. 2) What did Getz do that I feel you should use to evaluate him now? Why are we still having this discussion? He ran development. Guys like Madrigal, Vaughn, Roberts, Jimenez, Yoan all made the bigs. 4 of those 5 were injured too much to contribute. Vaughn was rushed and played out of position. He either ran development the way he was asked to, or he ignored every plea from above to modernize and bring in targeted help. And still kept his job because JR liked him and wanted to keep watching draft picks he paid serious money to get released to go sell real estate. To believe the later, you have to imagine Getz is a manipulative organizational cancer who will willingly fail to indict and remove those above him so he could rise to the top, inherit a horrible team that will be his reputation, lose big for two years on the gamble he knows exactly how to build a winning organization. He's either stupid OR ambitious to an unhealthy degree.- Let's look at the bright side - the Sox are going to have an absolute STAR in Caleb Bonemer
Beckham was out of the org by the time Getz got here. Fulmer was pitching in the bigs before Getz's time. Colas was acquired after Getz's time as director of development. So, no. I don't believe he had anything to do with rushing those guys. It's kind of known that the White Sox would draft college players who were mostly "developed" in college and could shoot through the system. No, I don't think the director of development was making the decision to promote players prematurely, and then to allow them to languish in the bigs without proper support. The main evidence we have that Getz wanted to do things differently is that once he became GM, he started making wholesale changes to development that resulted in tangible success. I can't see how the way Bill Veeck handled a prospect's timeline in the 1970s has any bearing on how the organization is run today.- Let's look at the bright side - the Sox are going to have an absolute STAR in Caleb Bonemer
That's part of the "British Chef, American Wife" joke?- Let's look at the bright side - the Sox are going to have an absolute STAR in Caleb Bonemer
This is like a computer spitting out nonsense messages as it melts down. We shouldn't mess up the Bonemer thread with your pouting. Create one called "Caulfield enraged at WestEddy for being right" and we'll pick this up there when you calm down.- Let's look at the bright side - the Sox are going to have an absolute STAR in Caleb Bonemer
I get it. Sucks to be wrong. Come back when you calm down and we'll talk.- Let's look at the bright side - the Sox are going to have an absolute STAR in Caleb Bonemer
Here's me saying 82 wins on March 10 in the bold predictions thread.- Let's look at the bright side - the Sox are going to have an absolute STAR in Caleb Bonemer
March 25 - 77 wins- Let's look at the bright side - the Sox are going to have an absolute STAR in Caleb Bonemer
Here's me saying they'd be 13-18 coming out of April. They were 14-17. My bad.- Let's look at the bright side - the Sox are going to have an absolute STAR in Caleb Bonemer
Why would anybody predict wins before Spring Training even started? Go look at the predictions thread. Your panic is typical of somebody who knows they're wrongy wrong. - Let's look at the bright side - the Sox are going to have an absolute STAR in Caleb Bonemer