WestEddy

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Baseball America podcast about how the rebuild is going.

then call the police.

Valiant effort. I don't see any of this as evidence. I think the fact that as soon as he became GM, Getz did a massive upgrade of their minor league system - is evidence that he wasn't granted the budget or ability to stay on par with the rest of the league. Calling that an excuse doesn't invalidate that reality. Hostetler's drafts weren't very good. I seem to remember every one of his 4 first rounders being panned at the time. Most of what I read about Collins when drafted was that he had a serious issue with swing mechanics that was hard to rework. Burger and Vaughn were 1B waiting to happen, and Madrigal was a slappy hitting gamer. Madrigal wasn't a flop, BTW, he produced offensively in his time on the Sox. He was not a good defender. And he couldn't stay healthy. Neither was Steele Walker who graduated up to high-A in his 1st full season with the Sox before he was traded. Burger wasn't "abandoned". The minor leagues were cancelled in 2020, and the Sox approved of him playing in a college summer league. They then invited him to their alternate training site. Yes, the lack of a minor league system contributed to the precipitous drop of the 2020-2021 "dynasty". Their system was poor mostly due to a non-existent international presence. One could blame Hostetler for his drafts, but a good bunch of players made it to the majors from the 2018 class. His 1st rounders were not good. Any 2nd or 3rd rounders who showed promise were quickly traded. They didn't even have a 2nd or 3rd round pick in 2015 from signing David Robertson and Melky Cabrera the winter before. So yeah, Getz was there for all of that, but maybe he had a good story for all of that to tell JR. To blame this on Getz, though, is circumstantial.

You can just go back, find the other 2 or 3 times this blew up in a string, and reread those. I've answered all these questions, so now it's incumbent upon you to tell us how Getz didn't do his job as director of development. Don't whine about the "lack of major stars" or whatnot, give us names of players who were can't-miss, and he personally derailed them. Maybe you have inter-office emails where KW and Hahn were begging him to hire a Senior Pitching Advisor, or to buy Trajekt machines, and he defied them. I mean, you must have some tangible, factual evidence that Chris Getz did not deserve to be promoted to GM. You refer to a "decent amount of history". Tell us, then about this history you are privy to.

An article highlighting some targets for the Rule 5 draft in December. 2025 Rule 5 Draft Targets - TJStats

I want to see how these moves play out. A bunch here have decided on day one that he sucked, didn't deserve the job, and that every single move he made was insignificant, and also ... sucked. By pushing back on the people who will deride every single development, I have become a "Getz-lover" and "naive". I see reality just fine. I don't need to make sure everybody sees reality the exact same way I do like the people who barrel in and make sure everyone knows that JR is cheap, and that every move Getz makes sucks.

Iriarte just got permission to play.

No, deriving joy from anything concerning your son is eons beyond corporate sports BS. I envy you. Good luck.

As do you. I hope you had a good Thanksgiving, and a good Bears' win.

Dude, I'll be dealing with the rentals, and you and Liptak are on every string, making sure to piss on every non-critical post. Look in the mirror.

Again, you wouldn't. Maybe you'd be happy if a post-Reinsdorf White Sox won, but if this franchise won under JR, you'd still try to ruin it for everyone by whining about every single advancement like you do, now. You have a history, too.

LOL. No you wouldn't. You're not happy when they win. My point stands. 29 teams don't run 3 All-Stars out there with 2 more on the bench. The Sox are in a rebuild. They will get better, regardless of when Ishbia takes over.

I look forward to the non-stop World Series victories you just guaranteed.

#1 is just assuming Sophomore slump. Teams are going to figure out how to stop Colson from beating them and they're just going to pound him. I agree with you on #2, mostly because the biggest ding against Quero's defense goes away, somewhat. Colson could really make Billy Carlson expendable if he could really stick at SS. He could grow off of the position and the Sox just drafted 4 shortstops last year, have Bonemer, and may very well draw a high pick, and take another shortstop. It really makes the concern trolling here about the Sox not having a top SS in the game in the organization laughable.

You said the Sox can't do something other teams do. I just pointed out to you that other teams have black holes at positions, even playoff clubs. Every other org doesn't field teams of 26 robots who don't make mistakes. Every team stresses fundamentals in spring training, and every team makes errors during the season and post-season. Dave Dombrowski's Phillies were ushered out of the playoffs on a very fundamental error. Maybe Dave Dombrowski should go to Orion Kerkering's house this winter and drill him on ground balls for the offseason. But you do you.

"The White Sox suck and won't be able to compete with anybody until Ishbia sells the team" is an even worse marketing tagline. Keep working on it.

The White Sox got above average production from 3 positions on a 100-loss team in 2025, and then above replacement in 3 others.

No, the point is that many teams, even about a quarter of playoff teams, got crap production from their outfield. It's fun to pretend 29 teams are running 3 All-Stars out there and have two more sitting on the bench in order to crap on the White Sox. That's pure fantasy.

That's weird, because all 3 Cleveland starters had below average OPS+ for 2025. Their next two outfield subs didn't even get to within half of average major league production. Seattle's Luke Raley and Dylan Moore were horrible, offensively. Philadelphia's entire OF setup, outside of Brandon Marsh, was a complete abortion. So, I think what you meant to say was it's good that the White Sox are at least on par with what actual playoff teams are running out there in the outfield.

1) At this stage, I wouldn't call Hill "even worse". He hits about on par with where Taylor was last year, minus some power. 2) He's a backup who can cover CF. Tommy Pham was that guy in 2024, and he was horrible in CF. 3) You're not really looking to find a backup CF who's better than your regular CF. That would be finding a replacement CF. 4) There are about 6 open 40-man spots, so the off-season hasn't even really started yet.

I'm kind of starved for any baseball talk, so here's the latest FutureSox podcast with James Fox and Ian Eskridge. Highlights - 1) they surmise Duncan Davitt would have been taken in the Rule 5, so the Sox protected him 2) They throw out the names Yordanny Monegro (Red Sox) and Reggie Crawford (Giants) as guys the Sox could be looking at 3) Venable seems to love Derek Hill, so get used to him, maybe 4) Pereira/Murray trade shows the Sox prioritizing defense 5) Leger and Shoman seem to come in with no connections, just interviewed and hired Enjoy, and think about throwing these guys a couple of dollars a month through Patreon. I find the Sunday night Podcasts to be pretty informative. FutureSox | creating baseball content | Patreon

But why? The guy has hit .200+ his entire career, pretty much. Taylor had a little more pop at the end, but all you want out of Hill is to cover CF in the case Robert goes down. As for the rest, they did leave themselves a bunch of roster spots, so they're not done.

Well, they probably see themselves within a window and see two years of Cease as worth the contract.

I think White Sox say no to that. Walker had a full year and did nothing with it. Cannon seems a return change to being the cromulent #5 he was in '24.