WestEddy

Even so, I thought that breaking down options by players and money was a productive take on the ongoing argument.

nevermind

I guess laughing represents an emotion.

Again, if we get to go back in time, does Chris Getz also get to thwart the October 7 massacre, since we're solving things we already know the outcomes for?

There are only 30 MLB GM jobs. When one opens up, you take it. I'm sure there's many guys running children's skills camps and charities who were waiting for that Yankees' job to open up. For those of us who take jobs to succeed under a challenge, Chris Getz knew the parameters of the job he accepted. And it looks like he's acing his assignment. Chris Getz did talk JR into spending beyond his comfort level. He convinced JR to take on bad money. Sounds like you're describing Chris Getz to a tee. Branch Rickey invented the modern farm system to appease his Cardinals' owner in his own frugal ways. Chris Gets is inventing a new way of winning in the same vein. Again, it sounds like you're describing a very successful GM.

I'm starting to think that Getz has engineered a quick turnaround. We've been assured by a few here that we wouldn't start seeing winning seasons until well into the 2030's. JR might have just announced, "Chris Getz is the only person who has the ability to make me think outside of my own wheelhouse. The only guy to push me to make decisions I'm uncomfortable with. He's assured me he can condense 3-4 seasons of sucking down into one and a half, so therefore, he's GM."

I'm imagining the crew up to their knees in water in the bridge, and the ship Captain handing his hat, medals and stripes to any crewman, saluting him, and running towards a lifeboat.

If Getz has the ability to go back in time and take control of a draft when he wasn't GM, does he also get to go back further and kill the baby Hitler? That would be a better trade, Sandlin, no Holocaust or WWII, and $15M.

And lost in all of this is, starting with $27M (bear with me on that number) reality = Acuña, Pauley, Hicks, Sandlin, $15M spent on Seranthony, Hays ($27M to spend, take on Hicks' $12M) DFA LuBob = $25M to spend ($27M - buyout) kick in money = Sandlin-like, ~ $17M (trade LuBob + $10M for prospect) keep LuBob = Robert, $5M ($7M - 2027 buyout) The question, then, is - does Getz do anything better with that $25M than that 1st option? Realize, that by DFAing LuBob, you get no cheap prospects. You're just paying free agents.

In reality, they probably only saved the amount of money the Sox planned on kicking into a LuBob deal to get a prospect, minus the $2M they would have paid to be done with him. However, Acuña added to the group of OFs they planned to sort through in spring training. Pauley adds to pitching depth in the minors. That presents as Getz' M.O. for amassing options in the IF, OF and pitching depth. It's not inconceivable that as Getz kicked tires on multiple trades and signings, he figured that Sandlin was a better grab than whoever was being offered in a "LuBob + money" deal. Nobody knows if Dominguez' and Hays' money was in the budget, or they saw a competitive team developing, and expanded.

I don't quite remember where I was, I just wanted the ordeal over. But I think I wanted Robert's option picked up. Things happened after they picked up his option. Mune wasn't exactly in their plans, but they found he was a real possibility. If they were still being low-balled on Robert, I was okay with running him back out there in CF. It seems they picked up LuBob's option, planned on kicking in money for a prospect, Mune fell in their laps, JR said to move LuBob's money, and Getz had the Mets' offer in his pocket. The whole ordeal saved them $2M on LuBob's option, netted a depth arm and Acuña, then unclogged the budget to fill some holes.

I thought they'd be slightly under, but that was with Baldwin and Teel in the lineup. Tristan Peters, Antonacci and Romo have been revelations.

Fletcher ended up being a move. What it looks like Getz does is groups in a bunch of post-hype, last chance, shot at 1-WAR guys and lets them fight it out for spots. Fletcher, DeLoach, Pillar, Pham, Julks, Colas, Grossman, Ortega - Julks had a nice two weeks, and Pham was...okay. Everything failed. They weren't bad "moves" per se; that's what was available at their price point. I'm guessing scouting was spotty, and Grifol's staff s%*# the bed. With the current group of outfielders, Kelenic and Acuña aren't bad moves, they're depth. Not everyone turns into a 5-WAR titan. My point was there was dudes showing up all day to post, "Oh, so you're saying..." and then append some BS I wasn't saying that I, in my idiot-ness, felt compelled to respond to. You aren't getting that, now. There's a big difference between a troll mob, and two guys saying, "oh, where are all the detractors, now?"

I'm not even sure what that means. Big odds on the Twins to win?

Weird, also, that the negativity was often directed at some people as personal attacks. Nobody was stopped from saying negative things. "This team sucks, as constructed". Nobody pushed back on that. "This convo on a newly acquired pitcher shouldn't be able to have anything positive because Getz has no concept of what a baseball even is, and If you don't believe he should be fired and never work in the game again, you're fellating him right this actual second," might have gotten a retort of "You know, this pitcher did have an entire season of success before his injury", which isn't quite jack-booted thugs telling you to shutcher face or else.

I find it funny that there were people who took victory laps after every single loss, after every error and strikeout by Dominic Fletcher, spent their entire days looking for any comments that weren't screaming for Getz to be fired to accuse those people of performing sex acts upon Getz. Every spring outing by Cristian Mena drew proclamations that he gained 5-7 mph on his fastball just by walking out of Sox camp. Now, those of us who were the recipients of that are pushing back a little. Like, you, WS23, don't have 8 people making up BS for you to defend for literal pages, then 3-4 drive-bys of dudes showing up just to tell you you're s%*#, and your thoughts don't matter. You have to read one or two comments of people crowing that they weren't actually wrong. Maybe SoxTalk should have a special Crisis Counselor String for the mad-heads to get support in the face of the rush of good news.

DSNB!

I would have been fun to put up another 5-spot, but at this point, just get off the field and stay healthy.

I'd love for this to carry into tomorrow, and October.

Joke's on us when Mad Mad Madrigal gets those 2500 hits before October.

I perceive that game threads become a competition to spew the most extreme invective the quickest. We seem to forget that the best hitters in the game make outs 7 out of 10 times, and the best pitchers still give up more than a baserunner an inning.