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I actually thought giolito showed how scary good he is because his fastball command was awful, he couldn't throw a slider near the plate, but his change up is so good he was able to dominate most of the game despite those two big issues.

Grandal lost a lot of strikes last night and you saw a lot of that last season? LOL Grandal was a top 4 framer last year by literally every metric that exists and is the best framer in the game on a consistent basis. I honestly think people are just willfully delusional regarding Grandal and slander the guy just for fun.

Yeah, I don't think we learned anything new about Madrigal last night though. I said this in the game thread but I don't think that Madrigal is suddenly a bad defender after being a very very good one his entire life at every level (including the minor leagues). I do think his defense is in his head a little bit at this point, and it's causing him to press and grip that ball a little tighter on plays. I have faith he'll likely figure that side of the ball out - he's fundamentally too good defensively to be terrible - but who knows, maybe he goes full Knoblauch and you never want to go full Knoblauch.

Literally nothing. Only thing we learned last night was that many at Soxtalk are back in regular season form and drawing vast conclusions from a singular baseball game that means next to nothing in regards to how good or bad any player or team are. It's great to have baseball back!

I'm not mad at them. I genuinely find it hilarious in an ironic way. I love their big goal. Just couldn't help but lmao at them not getting past 1.

The anti madrigal crowd here at least makes some sense. The anti grandal people are the most irrational people on this site. Just incredibly weird. It's like they have no idea how bad the avg catcher is.

Not a free pass. Nick absolutely partly responsible. Said if before. But the bullpen still blew the game and hilarious given their preseason goal. Like when you make that goal you know some errors are gonna happen.

If everyone can't laugh a little bit at the fact the bullpen was saying their goal was to go undefeated with a lead after the 7th before the season started, only to blow the first game of the year, then you're not doing fanhood right.

lol so colome didn't blow the game today? part of being an elite reliever is pitching over mistakes. not sure why this is difficult to understand. Bummer will get a BS tonight. it's amazing to see people defend how bummer pitcher.

he gave up 3 base runners. you seem to be having a difficult time understanding that. 3 base runners; 2 hits, 1 bb. I don't care how hard the ball was hit. you give up 3 base runners in an inning you're going to give up a run. error or no error.

the passed ball literally meant nothing at the end of the day. no one said it was OK; i certainly didn't. the bullpen blew the game.

so much for going undefeated with the lead after the 8th inning like the bullpen kept yapping about. 0-1.

Wonder what would have happened if Renteria left Leury in to hit there. Leury is legit terrible.

what does this mean? The guy gave up 3 base runners in the inning. lol I swear to god Sox fans will blame everyone but the person who actually didn't get the job done. I'm fine with giving some blame to Madrigal, but at the end of the day Bummer is elite of elite; he needs to pitch around that stuff.

i get that it wasn't hard hit, but it was a hit. He's a pitcher. He had a WHIP of 3 in his 1 inning of work. He's an elite reliever. I guarantee you Bummer isn't blaming Madrigal, or Grandal, for how he pitched. He blew the game. It happens. He probably won't do that much.

outside of the error, bummer gave up 2 hits and a walk and people in here saying he did enough to get out of the inning. SMH.

yes, pitchers throw the pitches they want to throw. hence how they shake off catchers. blaming a catcher for a pitch a pitcher decided to throw is literally hilarious. not surprising you were a pitcher; they love to blame everyone else for their decisions.

part of being an elite framer - the best in the game by many accounts - relates to being vulnerable to passed balls at times. It's not lazyness, it's how you have to receive the ball.

pitchers call the games, not catchers.

Bummer hasn't caught any breaks this inning but he also just hasn't been very good for him.

Bummer not throwing any sinkers this inning anymore when he needs a grounder. almost like he doesn't have the feel of it. weird stuff.

they had a lead going into the 8th inning. no excuse. an elite bullpen needs to pitch over mistakes too. bummer would tell you that himself.

yeah, i don't think he's suddenly a bad defensive player. i do believe it's in his head a little right now. he'll likely be fine defensively when it's all said and done, but it's been by far the most disappointing thing about his big league tenure so far

it really is amazing how bad madrigal has been defensively in the big leagues. truly amazing.

all home runs are reviewed if they are close.