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I don't get this mindset at all. Because the White Sox didn't try this year (low payroll, zero investment at the deadline) setting a low bar of expectations, and because they've been historically bad the years prior, we should be happy with the year. It feels like a huge loser mindset. Most even talk about this rebuild like it was better than the last because of this 84 win season in an AL that's the worst it's been in my life. They choked the division, and then choked the playoff series. But sure, tell me how this is different and deserves admiration. It's legit disappointing to see so many people adjust their expectations just because the Sox became an embarrassment of an org. I'll add, definitely some fun moments and the players deserved more.

I remember when sox acquired pham and everyone said it was meaningless and he wouldnt play so all the negative peolle were reacting for no reason. Now hes batting 5th in the fucking alds. Its embarrassing. The guy should be out of baseball yet the sox are playing him over much better players for reasons unknown to anyone. Just a joke.

Since the deadline the Sox are 4th in position player WAR and 5th in wRC+ in all of baseball. Meanwhile they're 22nd and 20th in pitching WAR and ERA. They blew it because the Sox acquired no real starters at the deadline when it was a desperate need.

Why can't we be one of the three worst teams ever to win a World Series? Let's small sample our way to shocking the world, starting with Ron's guy Sandlin getting lefties out for the first time all year... then a good old fashion Sean Burke shove fest. Just stopping in to say Go Sox! Nothing I'd enjoy more than listening to hundreds of people and talking heads tell us how we didn't deserve to win it all this year!

Doyle has a .235 xwOBA since joining the Sox, yet here we are talking about how the White Sox have transformed Doyle and he's now a win of the trade deadline. He has that despite the majority of his at bats coming against lefties with the Sox, who he's historically hit much better than righties, but with the Sox he has a .278 xwOBA against lefties which is absolutely terrible. Yes, let's celebrate Getz for acquiring a DFA candidate with his 0 walks and 33% K-Rate in nearly 100 AB's with the Sox. There wasn't a single good move at the deadline and it's why we're now playing a wildcard series.

Traitor. You've been removed from your co-chair role of the Antonacci fan club.

I dont even know what "execute an appeal" means in baseball context, as in requiring the manager to come out of the dugout. Thats not how you appeal. The guy screwed up and gave a bs explanation. Happens everyday in life. This place has jumped the shark it seems and my contributions dont really have a place here anymore. No biggie.

Took heat? The Sox just sent Schultz down today. They've destroyed the kid. Pessimistic take lol. Its what happened and what was said by the man himself. That somehow makes me a pessismist. Im sorry you cant come to grips with that. This place has become intolerable.

Zero chance. He looked like a confused moron, not like some savant gaming the system. Occams razor is something people have a hard time accepting.

Guy screws up like a dope. Admits he fucked up on live TV. Soxtalk refuses to accept the reality.

He was always living on the edge as a command based arm with pretty below average stuff. Rays were able to maximize his outcomes, but we're talking about a guy with a career FIP near 4.7 whose stuff has taken another step back. He's always given up a bunch of bombs and this year is no different, and he's actually giving up even more flyballs, with a lot of hard contact. Not a good combo.

Littell is terrible.

He only didnt catch last year. He was catching the two years prior.

Maybe him and Vargas have the same pharmaceutical rep.

Sandlin cant get lefties out with his repertoire. He needs another pitch.

no chance. I wish I had you guys there behind me to 4D think my way out of the dumb decisions I make.

Schultz going to shove tonight. I got a feeling!

Ok, my last post in this thread. Wilson Contreras hasn't caught a game since 2024. He is now a 1B/DH. He had an 850 OPS as a catcher two years ago. Catching is hard, it beats up your body. Nothing weird about a guy moving from behind the dish and being healthier and stronger and having a big year. The Red Sox are 4th in wRC+ since July 1st at 117. There is nothing historically crazy about a 117 wRC+ over a month. The Minnesota Twins had a 122 wRC+ in June. Were they cheating? No idea why people are so infatuated with a guy hitting a low sinker in the spot Brazoban always throws his sinker. That was a great piece of hitting. Durbin has been worse for the Sox than he was for the Brewers, Monasterio has been basically the same offensive player he was for 60 games last year with the Brewers, Abreu has been basically the exact same player he's always been the years prior, Rafaela was a 24 year old who took a step forward (hardly shocking, look at the Sox!), Yoshida has been better than he was last year, but worse than he was the two years prior, Connor Wong better than last year but worse than the year before. Where are all these career years? Contreras is having a career year, that's about it.

That whole thing sounded like: "Oh they crushed you, but I've been watching you and this is why" type situation to lift up his pitchers confidence. Who knows though, still a big Teel fan so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on being wise!

Fair enough, maybe you just saw the article and the Sox mentalist'ed you. Put the thought in your mind so you felt it. Happens!

Call people cheaters before they kick your ass. Doing it after just makes you look like a whiner. Beyond that, the fact that the Sun Times had an article after Davis Martin's whooping insinuating something suspicious (although they claimed it was "legal") as to why he got crushed, and then two days later we have other Sox media-aligned person tweeting about cheating isn't the best look in the world imo.

It really is an embarrassing thread. I know it's hard as Sox fans to understand teams that have elite preparation, MLB scouting and game plans but that's the Brewers.

Yeah, but it goes back to the idea that they paid for Dominguez to provide a level of performance at one position. That level of performance has now gone out the door, and you've obtained someone else at a different position. The costs themselves don't off-set, and no one would say Castillo now is only making 13 million which is "what he'd get on the open market." If you wanted to trade Castillo, you need to move the whole 23 million meaning the market won't trade you for him because he doesn't actually cost 13 million that is being claimed to be his real cost "in line with the market."

Davis Martin gets smacked around and the team releases the idea that red Sox had a tell and he was tipping pitches. Two days later James is tweeting about cheating. White sox media is becoming as bad a politically slanted media with their talking points. I bet the red sox are very happy to know theyre in the head of the opponent like this though.

All the time? Well, no. But if you think Jim Thome didn't take steroids im not sure what to tell you. There's also plenty of evidence... like him ballooning in size from his debut to his period of home run masher. Dont know if youve noticed, but guys dont suddenly get that huge anymore! The majority of players then took steroids. The majority of teams aren't bashing trash cans.