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I think his slider was being classed incorrectly his last few appearances of 2024 as a cutter. He talked about them tightening the spin and the velo was up a little. I dont really have much to go on outside of visual, but just my thoughts.

If anything, the Dodgers told him to just throw his fastball and slider and to scrap everything else, while the White Sox had him throwing 4 pitches.

I don't see much noticeable change with the White Sox in pitch mix: April-June, his four seam usage was right around 78.25% June through end of July it was 77.5% August and September it was 77% If the transformation was one less fastball per 100 pitches, I'm having a hard time buying it.

Kopech's ERA in July before traded (his last month with the White Sox) was 5.79 in 9 innings. August with Dodgers .68 ERA September with Dodgers 1.86 ERA Very confused how he "was a shut down closer" before he left.

I know, I'm speaking of Davis Martin. He's not literally 40, but he's not a young arm. The guy will be 29 in a few months.

I think most people in this thread are far too high on Burke. I don't think he's a MLB starter. He has one average pitch and then four below average offerings. With Cannon, he at least has two possible + offerings. I think he could be worked with to be serviceable possibly. Martin is like 40 years old.

The Sox are 3rd to last in wRC+. That anchor they set last year is causing praise to be heaped on a guy in charge of the 3rd worst offense in baseball.

If the Sox get a 4 and 3 win player + an avg regular out of the deal, then I'd obviously agree. I think that scenario requires everything to go right/improve. I wouldn't say it's highly unlikely, but I think it's less likely than not. Time will tell. If they get 5 or 6 WAR spread across 3 positions for a 6 WAR+ player, that's a pretty decent loss.

If they're playing service tricks with a guy whose more likely to be out of the league than in it in 6 years, shame on them.

Teams aren't going to net a + when they trade 1 player that's worth 5+ WAR for 3 players worth 5+ WAR. The value of that one 5 WAR player is significantly higher than the value of those three players. That said, it's still very possible that Teel and Mont are 3+ WAR players, at which point both teams would win. Can't emphasize how hard is to find unicorns like Crochet.

Garrett and Skubal have really started to separate themselves from the pack now. He's 2nd in fWAR at 5, which is actually 1 full WAR higher than the 6th place guy (Hunter Brown). Skubal at 5.5 is leading the pack. Other Cat ranks: 3rd in ERA 3rd in FIP 4th in K/9 2nd in IP 2nd in Wins Meanwhile: Meidroth - 1.2 fWAR Teel - .7 fWAR Montgomery 167 wRC+ at AA and having a nice year in general. With Gonzalez not looking like he'll amount to much of anything, this trade looks like it's going to come down to whether Montgomery turns into a ++ player or not. I think Teel will be an everyday catcher, but Meidroth is trending towards a utility guy and a catch+Util player would be a huge loss of a trade for the 2nd best pitcher in baseball.

It's almost as if... one trait of a good leader/builder is that when they leave, things keep churning in the right direction because they build an infrastructure that's not reliant on one person being there.

Every team wanted to hire Stearns. Getz wouldnt be hired by any other mlb team. The crazy comparisons to other GMs is wild.

When was their system ranked 2nd in baseball? Not doubting, just curious. Id argue the difference was all those teams had a few ++ big league pieces that their #1-2 farm was joining. The Sox had one MLB piece on their roster without those guys.

Another bomb. Would make me feel a little bit better about my assessment of vaughn when drafted if he just dominates for a few years after leaving the Sox.

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He won't sell the team because he doesnt want it to be turned into a money grab. Mentioned he'd rather create a billion fans at a good price than maximize profits because once you build the following, you'll already have more than you'd ever need.

I truly wish there was a question mark reaction, because the only person in our interactions that starts belittling and name calling is you. Also, what do the Sox do well that I'm supposed to be angry about?

I'm telling you, setting the bar as low as Getz did last year has genuinely helped him with some fans. Anchoring works, as has been proven time and time again, and Getz anchored himself to the worst record in baseball history at the time. I heard an interview with Thorpe a few days ago and they asked him... "how is the locker room and how are the guys this year" and he talked about how much better it is in there and how they're so much better than last year. This is the second worst team in baseball 😂 Jerry has found his dream match in Getz. He used to think he had to do well enough to finish in 2nd place and keep the fanbase engaged. Now he realizes he can just be so bad that any semblance of competency will lead to some fans endlessly talking about a bright future.

A few days ago it was .420 ball since May 1st.... I guarantee if guys get shut down for innings and etc at end of the year and they finish similar to how they started in April, we'll be hearing how "when they played their guys, they were actually a 65 win team" and that "the end of the season should be thrown away." You are what your record says. They're on pace to lose 103 games. Will be the 4th time in 55 years that they've lost 100+ games, and twice were under Captain Getz.

How can a bullpen arm be more valuable to a team not competing at all than to teams competing?

So sox went with an arm in round 1 because Fuller wasnt here so it was safer but the lack of fuller didn't scare them because they took bats 4 of 6. Also, drafting an arm is never safer than drafting bat. Thats called talking out of both sides of your mouth, which happens when you spend so much time making excuses for bad decisions.

States Sox went with pitching in first round because of a lack of Fuller. Proceeds to say not having Fuller did not impact draft selections because rounds 4-6 were bats. Make it make sense, por favor. Sounds like excuses of convenience.

He's always been a really streaky player. In 2023 he had a stretch in May/June period I believe where he had an OPS under 700 for 40ish games. 2022 he had a very similar July/August slump -- in fact his rolling wRC+ in that period is almost identical to the one now. He usually either starts slow out of the gate, or slows down mid season. He's finished seasons strong though throughout his career so I wouldn't be shocked to see him get on a heater soon enough. Oddly enough July has been the worst month of his career with April coming up second.

Not sure I'd call a 135 wRC+ tanking offensively. I'd still absolutely take Tucker over PCA as I imagine most GM's around the league would.